Look at how sorry nordstrom's dating life is

[Lao Tzu]

Hey man, everyone's a little weird in some ways. I've had periods of 2 years with no sex and little to no dating,, and didn't even beat off through grades 10 and 11 pretty much since my sex drive disappeared due to depression. I always thought that was kind of weird. And it's not like it ends. I still get weird as fuck sometimes and can't even be around people without weirding everyone out. I think you need to stop putting pressure on yourself. I think it sucks that society has placed it in people's heads that they need to be interacting socially and especially sexually to be acceptable. Who the fuck cares? You either like meeting new people and spending your time trying to get laid or you don't. Nothing wrong with going either way. I do think, however, that you should at least give both a try and then gauge how you like each. Maybe there's a balance you can find, but it sounds like it's something you are at least interested in otherwise you probably wouldn't be mentioning it in Internet Land. Wait, you aren't fucking with me are you?
Another trick I have found works well with overcoming shyness is drugs and lots of them.

That is very relatable and moving, you should post serious things more often on EF. I dont think i'm really shy right now at this point in my life. A few years ago when i had a serious inferiority complex and a pretty troubled past i was afraid people would find out about I was shy, but at this point in my life those things aren't really problems for me anymore.

For the record, i actually enjoy talking to women. Its nice to see a stranger, go up to her and after a few minutes know a moderate amount about her. About her goals, her major, her background, her name, etc.

I have no real pressing desire to get laid. getting laid isn't my goal with this. My goal is to interact more, to be able to pick up strange women and to find women who like me in return. If all i wanted was sex i could go the prostitute route.

Anyway, i talked to a new woman today. On the way out of class i approached her and we talked for about 40 seconds before we had to go in seperate directions. I wanted to ask her out but

1. i chickened out (which is understandable)
2. I dont really want to talk to a woman for 30 seconds then ask her out. Its my belief you should have 2-3 mini conversations before you ask for a date just to see if you're somewhat compatible and so you know she is not a bitch or a brat. Plus by this point she will still be a friendly aquaintance and less likely to look down on you or talk about you behind your back. At least that's my view. Plus she will probably respect a guy who gets to know her a bit before asking her out than a guy who just asks her name then asks for a date.

So i 'may' try to ask this particular girl out sometime this week, but don't get your hopes up people. I have a 12.5% success rate here.

 

[Lao Tzu]

ALso i forgot the girls name i talked to today, i guess thats a bad thing. ah well.

 

[jerseyart]

Nordstrom.

You need not ask a woman you just met out right away. You may be better off simply asking for a phone number, or even less threatening is an e-mail addy. Most girls will give you one if they're somewhat interested. Your a clever lad, and funny. You could prolly do well going in that direction, and it may help to calm some of your fears in one on one encounters

 

[Lao Tzu]

Nordstrom.

You need not ask a woman you just met out right away. You may be better off simply asking for a phone number, or even less threatening is an e-mail addy. Most girls will give you one if they're somewhat interested. Your a clever lad, and funny. You could prolly do well going in that direction, and it may help to calm some of your fears in one on one encounters

Yeah, this is my philosophy. My concerns with women are

1. They will not like me
2. i will not like them
3. They will be cruel and inconsiderate either to my face or behind my back

I figure if i wait until a few conversations are out of the way then each of these things will be benefited dramatically. By the 3rd conversation i know a reasonable amount about a person, i know a reasonable amount about whether she likes me or is taken, and she will consider me someone she is on friendly terms with and be less likely to act like a bitch either to my face or behind my back. And if she is a brat or supercilious (which a reasonable percentage of young white western women can be) i will have picked up on this and got the fuck out of dodge by then.

When 'asking a woman out' doesn't there need to be a mutual interest or are you just dating to date? ie, don't you need to establish some mutual interest you both have or do you just ask them out to do anything? I would figure the mutual interest approach would have a much higher success rate. Like if you both hate bush you ask them to see fahrenheit 9/11. If you both like reading you ask them to go to a used bookstore. etc.

 

[Robert Jan]

You should realise you don't "have to" do this and date.

maybe you know this, but i dont think you realise it.
once you do it will become easier to do it, ironically.

 

[Lao Tzu]

You should realise you don't "have to" do this and date.

maybe you know this, but i dont think you realise it.
once you do it will become easier to do it, ironically.

I think i do realize that. When i am about to approach a woman i ask myself 'do i really want to talk to her or am i just trying to force myself'. I am trying this because i've never tried it before and want to see what its like. This is the first time in my life i've tried talking to strange women and i enjoy it so far. im 25 and havent dated, what difference will it make if i get to 28 or 32 and haven't dated? It wont. But i want to see what its like before i decide if i want to invest any real time/effort into this.

Also as i realize women are just people who can be bratty, or hard to talk to, or uneventful, or irrelevant helps to make it easier too. Them not liking me or rejecting me isn't that important because most people are not going to have any major impact on me anyway, unless its a destructive impact. And thats not likely to happen.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I'm in school in summer. Funny story, i asked a woman out in my class (did i not tell you im in class for summer?) Apparently she didn't know I was asking her out on a date and thought it was just a friendly get together but we are friendly aquantinces now.

Ahh, the friend trap. It's not a total loss, though; you can use it to your advantage. Hang out with her now and then, and make sure to talk to other girls when you are with her, and even get some #'s. When girls see you with other girls it makes them think that you must have something attractive qualities if that girl wants to be around you, even if you aren't dating/boning/etc.

You'll get the hang of using the subtle art of body language to let chicks know you are interested in being more than friends.

You have one thing down to a tee, though, and that is that you don't appear needy/desperate to women. Keep this up, because no woman likes a man who's desperate.
Be casual, and don't take the whole "picking up chicks" thing too seriously.

Life shouldn't be taken too seriously, because we all die in the end anyway.

Relax, smile, and don't put any unnecessary pressure on yourself.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

After reading this, my question is, how do you manage to get through anything in life? Everything has risk to it. Relationships with people are highly dymanic things. People meet, find love, go through some amount of life and then change one way or another then feel like they have to destroy one another to move on in their life. Others will hang around miserably with each other, and then some are just completely happy until their dying days with each other.

Do you not eat different foods because they might not taste right. Or that they'll stop tasting good after a while? Do you not get on a bicycle or in a car or on a motorcycle because something bad may happen?

LIVE!

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

Don't give up.......

 

[Lestat]

change your name back to nordstrom man.,