LOL @ small government

[mrplunkey]

good post 75th....if what they were planning to sell in europe was illegal than by all means we should turn them over to european authorities. What's so hard about that? Talk about fucking complications if we're gonna try to disseminate 3rd world countries legal systems in order to prosecute american citizens here. I thought we had to undertake severe tort reform because our legal system is a mess....god talk about mucking up our legal system even further. And yeah, it's exactly exporting our laws overseas. There should be a line though I agree....like if raping children becomes legal somewhere we probably should at the very least revoke someone's citizenship. I can see where that get's "ultra" messy though.

It's ok to run a cocaine dealership out of the US but not sex tours for 14 year olds?

The age of consent in some countries is very low (i.e. 12-14). If some enterprising American wants to setup sex tours for sweaty 65-year old men to bang 14 year old albanians, why oh why would we ever export our laws overseas?

 

[redsamurai]

It's ok to run a cocaine dealership out of the US but not sex tours for 14 year olds?

The age of consent in some countries is very low (i.e. 12-14). If some enterprising American wants to setup sex tours for sweaty 65-year old men to bang 14 year old albanians, why oh why would we ever export our laws overseas?

yep that's the messy grey area. The cocaine, hey if nots comin in the U.S, that's one where if you're a grown adult and want to do cocaine thats on you. Sex with underage children though, well, yeah.

 

[mrplunkey]

yep that's the messy grey area. The cocaine, hey if nots comin in the U.S, that's one where if you're a grown adult and want to do cocaine thats on you. Sex with underage children though, well, yeah.

And of course a meth and heroin distributorship based in the US would be no different, correct?

You don't think some of those drugs will make their way to the same 14 year olds involved in the sex trade?

 

[redsamurai]

like I said it's messy, but you have to draw a "reasonable" line. If i want to operate a hemp farm in British Columbia which produces hemp protein, among other things...I shouldn't be prosecuted by the federal govt for doing something which is perfectly legal in BC. If I want to sell cocaine and/or Heroin in amsterdam under that countries guidelines...well, that should be my right. When you get into things like having sex with children, well then there you have to draw a line and say if you want to do that then fine, it's legal there but you can't come back here, citizenship revoked. But as offensive as i find the sex trade in Thailand you can't throw people in jail for doing what is legal over there....you just have to bant them.

 

[Spartacus]

pdaddyIV take care of this thread
appears godzilla shat all over it
and I don't feel like fuckin' wit it

 

[Spartacus]

you don't seem to be too busy at the moment
noticed your posting pace today

 

[youpissmeoff]

As much as our goobermint would love to, we cant control the whole world.

They are not trying to control the whole world - just US citizens.

The law is obviously being put in place because the drug war in Mexico is getting out of hand and the US has to get some teeth in place to try and do something about it.

Lol @ 75th saying Plunky is missing the point and the guy bringing up a Wedding in Amsterdam was not.

 

[mrplunkey]

They are not trying to control the whole world - just US citizens.

The law is obviously being put in place because the drug war in Mexico is getting out of hand and the US has to get some teeth in place to try and do something about it.

Lol @ 75th saying Plunky is missing the point and the guy bringing up a Wedding in Amsterdam was not.

What?

You mean an American holding a wedding in Amsterdam couldn't line-up their drug deals until they actually entered the Netherlands? Do you have any idea how nearly impossible it is to get pot in Amersterdam without planning it weeks in advance from the US???

Sheesh...

 

[75th]

They are not trying to control the whole world - just US citizens.

The law is obviously being put in place because the drug war in Mexico is getting out of hand and the US has to get some teeth in place to try and do something about it.

Lol @ 75th saying Plunky is missing the point and the guy bringing up a Wedding in Amsterdam was not.

I dont think anybody is confused as to why they are doing it.

That doesnt change the fact that its a shitty idea. Someone doing something illegal in the us and in a foreign country? Ok, that kind of makes sense.

Someone carrying out something in a foreign country that has no problem with it and us punishing them here at home = no bueno.

 

[mrplunkey]

I dont think anybody is confused as to why they are doing it.

That doesnt change the fact that its a shitty idea. Someone doing something illegal in the us and in a foreign country? Ok, that kind of makes sense.

Someone carrying out something in a foreign country that has no problem with it and us punishing them here at home = no bueno.

So let's get this straight:

You are 100% fine with a US citizen directing an organization from inside the US that operates a would-be criminal enterprise outside the US as long as the country in which it operates does not complain (in the legal sense, obviously)?