LOL @ small government

[75th]

At this point it's hard to tell if:

1) You're really that dumb
2) Are trying to talk your way out of a lost argument
3) Just trolling.

So it's B?

and lol @ 2 and 3. Irony perfected.

Reading back through this thread I love how at the flip of a switch we went from talking about meth labs (which, I dont know, actually applied to the topic) to plastic explosives without much of a segway.

But yeah, #2 and 3. You have the monopoly on those, unfortunately.

 

[redsamurai]

again, if I want to go to canada and grow hemp and make..oh i don't know, food/fuel/cloth etc, etc, why shouldn't I be allowed to if it's PERFECTLY legal in canada to do so..?? I think meth labs are illegal in mexico too if i'm not mistaken.

Again, plunkey...the inconcistencies in your arguments is so bewildering. What you allow the govt on one day vs what you disallow the very following day makes me think if i was liquored up i could possibly follow it cause normal logic doesn't cut it. While I'm not in complete disagreement that we shouldn't be letting U.S citizens do fuck all we want in other countries, giving the govt. yet another selective enforcement tool is not on my list of things the govt. ought to be doing. As much as I kind of agree that someone running a meth lab somewhere where it's legal and that meth is finding it's way here, is bullshit....you also have to understand that the govt WILL use it to bust people buying some weed in amsterdam....it's just a matter of time. And like I already asked, can someone verify if RICO statutes already cover this?




ps. Stop bullshitting and crack that Hurco mill.

 

[mrplunkey]

again, if I want to go to canada and grow hemp and make..oh i don't know, food/fuel/cloth etc, etc, why shouldn't I be allowed to if it's PERFECTLY legal in canada to do so..?? I think meth labs are illegal in mexico too if i'm not mistaken.

Again, plunkey...the inconcistencies in your arguments is so bewildering. What you allow the govt on one day vs what you disallow the very following day makes me think if i was liquored up i could possibly follow it cause normal logic doesn't cut it. While I'm not in complete disagreement that we shouldn't be letting U.S citizens do fuck all we want in other countries, giving the govt. yet another selective enforcement tool is not on my list of things the govt. ought to be doing. As much as I kind of agree that someone running a meth lab somewhere where it's legal and that meth is finding it's way here, is bullshit....you also have to understand that the govt WILL use it to bust people buying some weed in amsterdam....it's just a matter of time. And like I already asked, can someone verify if RICO statutes already cover this?




ps. Stop bullshitting and crack that Hurco mill.

Along with hypotheticals over what LE could do, it might help to look into what the law is trying to prevent.

I can't find the case, but apparently two guys in Miami planned an overseas cocaine deal, but couldn't be prosecuted since they didn't do it on American soil. It makes no sense to let Americans work inside the US while they own/operate/invest in overseas cocaine labs.

And there's nothing to crack on the Hurco downstairs. It has no idea what it's making. But if I do decide to make restricted firearms or devices, federal agents will eventually show-up and make me some guy's girlfriend in federal prison.

 

[75th]

Aaaaaaaand further proof that you didnt even bother to read the article seeing as how it references that very case maybe halfway down:

The law is a reaction to a 2007 case in which the 11th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals threw out the convictions of two men who planned the transfer of cocaine from a Colombian drug cartel to a Saudi prince for distribution in Europe. Though the men planned the transaction from Miami, the court found that because the cocaine never reached the U.S. and was never intended to reach the U.S., the men hadn't committed any crime against the United States.

But the Smith bill goes farther than necessary to address that outcome in that case. "They could have limited this law to prohibiting the planning of activities that are illegal in the countries where they take place," Piper says. "That would have allowed them to convict the guys in the Miami case. There was an amendment proposed to do that and it was voted down on party lines. They intentionally made sure the bill includes activities that are legal in other countries. Which means this is an attempt to apply U.S. law all over the globe."

 

[ceo]

I don't like it.

 

[redsamurai]

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And there's nothing to crack on the Hurco downstairs. It has no idea what it's making. But if I do decide to make restricted firearms or devices, federal agents will eventually show-up and make me some guy's girlfriend in federal prison.

It can't be cracked so it doesn't alert the manufacturer when you try to do things on more axis's than it allows?

 

[redsamurai]

good post 75th....if what they were planning to sell in europe was illegal than by all means we should turn them over to european authorities. What's so hard about that? Talk about fucking complications if we're gonna try to disseminate 3rd world countries legal systems in order to prosecute american citizens here. I thought we had to undertake severe tort reform because our legal system is a mess....god talk about mucking up our legal system even further. And yeah, it's exactly exporting our laws overseas. There should be a line though I agree....like if raping children becomes legal somewhere we probably should at the very least revoke someone's citizenship. I can see where that get's "ultra" messy though.

 

[mrplunkey]

It can't be cracked so it doesn't alert the manufacturer when you try to do things on more axis's than it allows?

No, it's already native with simultaneous 5-axis movement. To make it work like a more simple mill, you actually have to dumb it down and clamp the A and C axis.

 

[-SD-]

This will set a nice precedent for all the overseas bank accounts and holding of rich people. Gotta love unintended consequences

 

[mrplunkey]

This will set a nice precedent for all the overseas bank accounts and holding of rich people. Gotta love unintended consequences

That ship sailed a looooooooong time ago.

The days of sekrit swiss banking are gone.