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Law to build a 3200 km wall along the US border with Mexico!!!

many illegals also contribute to SS without collecting benefits because they use a fake SS number.

A lot of these guys pay taxes too.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
many illegals also contribute to SS without collecting benefits because they use a fake SS number.

A lot of these guys pay taxes too.

Agreed. Are they still allowed to get Tax I.D. numbers? Or did 9/11 squash that?
 
Testosterone boy said:
One word.......

tunnels

That is what I said in my second post on this thread.



People come back to what I say much later after I have said it. Why is that??? :evil:


The Mexican people can build the wall and dig tunnels in places the Americans won't know or find easily. Tunnels were made in the toughest of jails by the prisoners to run away. It can be done here too.
 
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To echo what spongebob said: Chickenhouses and logging operations in south Arkansas hire illegal immigrants for a lot of low paying jobs. Instead of the already partially subsudized healthcare they get medicaid for free. Among other things that practice has taken a toll on the rest of the residents of the area.

Illegals with cell phones call 911 when they are sick and get a free ride to the hospital. In addition to the ambulance not collecting any money from the visit, the emergency room loses valuable space where people who pay for healthcare need to get the care they pay for.

So... The ambulance company collects $0. The hospital collects a small fee. Everyone loses.

Nevermind the backlash that would happen if someone was denied care because of no insurance and/or medicaid.

Did I mention those chicken house jobs pay cash?
 
Hiatussin said:
I think it´s a good idea but it´s going to be very expensive

Does it have a price ticket? did they do the math?

It's a great idea. The price, whatever it is, is less compared to the damage they do to the nation. Even 98% of legal southamerican immigrants are making more damage than benefit to this nation.

The only problem, the documents refers to a "fence". I'd build a strong, tall, electrified wall. Oh and some mines on the field.
 
spongebob said:
who benefits from the underground economy?

look this is what happens. workers come here and make cash monies, they send part of it back, what percentage i dont know. they dont pay taxes here and they collect welfare, free medical and other benefits like free schooling.

even if hired legally some intentionally make just enough to avoid paying taxes while still collecting all the benefits above.

tell me whats so great about that. when im working my ass off to provide for my family, paying taxes, supporting the school system and paying my higher medical cost because some are getting it for free.

i have no hard data but im willing to bet the farm that you are coming out on the losing end of this just so your rich nieghbors can have cheap house cleaning services.

whats going on is costing you more money in the long run.


Sales tax-based system. It will defeat the whole purpose of working underground. Everyone buy goods. No exception. So no matter if you're Mr. Fajita working with a fake ID at Wendy's or some stripper, in both cases you end up paying taxes. But that will never happen cause is just too good....
 
manny78 said:
Sales tax-based system. It will defeat the whole purpose of working underground. Everyone buy goods. No exception. So no matter if you're Mr. Fajita working with a fake ID at Wendy's or some stripper, in both cases you end up paying taxes. But that will never happen cause is just too good....

Does Canada have a sales tax?

Exactly. Even though they are payed with cash, they purchase goods and pay State & Local Sales Taxes. In D.C., the Sales Tax is 10%, in NYC, 8.25%.

Whether we want to admit it or not, I'm sure every business owner in this forum wouldn't hesitate to take $20.00 from an illegal immigrant that wants to purchase their goods regardless of their political opinion about immigration.

This country has always have & will continue to depend on cheap labor, just keep better track of them via an amnesty program (like Bush wanted in his first term).
 
nycgirl said:
Does Canada have a sales tax?

Exactly. Even though they are payed with cash, they purchase goods and pay State & Local Sales Taxes. In D.C., the Sales Tax is 10%, in NYC, 8.25%.

Whether we want to admit it or not, I'm sure every business owner in this forum wouldn't hesitate to take $20.00 from an illegal immigrant that wants to purchase their goods regardless of their political opinion about immigration.

This country has always have & will continue to depend on cheap labor, just keep better track of them via an amnesty program (like Bush wanted in his first term).


We have sales tax combined with income taxes. Now there's a huge debate in my province about having a sales tax only system (higher, like 15% instead of 8%).
 
manny78 said:
Sales tax-based system. It will defeat the whole purpose of working underground. Everyone buy goods. No exception. So no matter if you're Mr. Fajita working with a fake ID at Wendy's or some stripper, in both cases you end up paying taxes. But that will never happen cause is just too good....

No, a sales tax based system puts all the burden on lower and middle classes, because the wealthy only spend a very small percentage of their wealth on consumables.
 
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