Is this dangerous?

[Torchy]

I truly think that xenical was put on this Earth to scare the bejesus out of someone. I would not take all that at the same time. If ya want to do a cycle that involves winni and primo, ok. I'd start with the primo first for a few weeks. See what kind of sides and roll into winni. Stay away from T3. That shit is evil to play around with if ya don't know. Anyway, this is a bit strong. I would stick to the primo and winni only if first time. She's 20? First time? Pre-contest? I think it's a bit much. I have gyno problems and didn't do that much. But, then again, that's me. There are plenty of women who have cycled and have healthy children. Don't screw around. Test the waters first with your feet, then if this is your career or lifestyle> hey... Make sure this is what you both want...



Torchy

 

[Zirakzigil]

why is xenical scary, what does it do?

confused,
Z-Z

 

[perfectspecimen]

wow!!

this is her third cycle.
first one was winny at 10mg a day with clen and cyto
toned up nicely

second one was anavar with winny and clen and cyto
she got bloated from the anavar and wasnt impressed

she did xenical before and like the results, but i didnt like the grease!

she has also used proviron which made her really toned.

what would you girls suggest for her.
she wants to lose weight and tone up, she doesnt want to grow.

We both dont want this to cause birth defects either.

please suggest something reasonable. we appreciate it

 

[BronzedGoddess]

why is xenical scary, what does it do?

confused,
Z-Z

Have you ever seen the commercials and listened to the side effects? pretty freaky sh*t. Diarreah(sp) loose stools, lost of bowel control etc. I think loosing control of my bowels would keep my ass away from the ice cream!

 

[BronzedGoddess]

Just wondering.........but why is she using steroids in the first place. Is she an aspiring (sp) BB?

Also, do you REALLY need AS to tone up and loose weight? Couldn't that be accomplished with hard work and a clean diet? I don't think the side effects are worth the easy way out. However, I'm just a naive natty so I don't know as much as the ladies here with years of AAS experience, I'm just offering my opinion. Whatever you choose to do, good luck.

 

[Temple]

Once you've tasted the candy it is hard to give it up. I admire those who do it naturally and I don't condemn those who choose to use a bit of assistance. It's all good. I posted on another of your threads but my best advice is to get some REAL anavar - I think she will be impressed.

 

[BrickGirl]

she just wants to "tone" up and lose weight? And it is taking her 3 cycles to do this? something is wrong somewhere, i would quit all anabolics and fix her diet, that is obviously way off, if you are wanting to lose weight, you surely don't take anabolics to do it.

 

[figuregrl]

Wow..

perfectspecimen:
Um, if your girl wants to just 'tone up', I will have to agree with those that know what they are talking about...I am currently competing in Figure comp's and in order to get myself to look like I need to look, I need to lift heavy (each body part) once a week, and eat clean, cardio, supplement, etc - do all the things mentioned by others, naturally. As someone mentioned, she should start with a base of good, hard training and eating and THEN if she needs some extra help along the way, then she may need to use...I am going through that myself right now...I am debating on whether I want to go that route or not...I have been training and eating my head off to put on quality muscle over the last year, I just now have gotten off the birth control pill to help lean out and will go from there and see what needs to be done...I would definitely say stay off all that stuff...I mean, I am no expert, but my god - it seems like a crazy amount of stuff to take for someone who is not even competing!! I am getting ready to go into competition season myself and am going crazy wondering if i should take a low dose of Proviron to help me lose fat deposits on my hips and lower abs which really don't seem to want to leave my body (probably did not help being on the pill for years and years!)...anyway, I could not contemplate taking the amount of stuff your girl is getting ready to take in May! By the way, can you help me out?? Has she had any negative side effects on Proviron and how hard did it get her???