pdaddyII said:
Well, it's something that she wants and I never thought to have any stringent opposition to, plus it would make her happy giving her a "real sense of fulfillment."
I didn't read the whole thread, just the first coupla pages.
What about what fulfills YOU? Don't marry a woman because you think that a legal document will "make her feel fulfilled." Next it will a baby because the paper didn't make her feel the way SHE THOUGHT it would. Then it will be whatever else because the wedding and the baby didn't make her feel the way SHE THOUGHT it would. Next thing PDaddy is posting up about how the sweet loving girl he married hoping to fulfill her is now a nasty harpy bitch that just can't be pleased....
You shouldn't marry a woman because YOU THINK or SHE SAYS that will make HER HAPPY.
Do you like.... I mean REALLY
REALLY LIKE each other? And no, I am not talking about sex. I am talking about genuinely enjoying one another's company because let me tell you, when the shit hits the fan, the sex will go out the window REAL FAST. Do you
respect one another? Do you have common life goals?
Marriage won't change her or you, but it will change the way society treats you. Society will treat a babymama and a gf waaaaaaaay different than it will treat YOUR WIFE. Whether it is right or wrong - I am 100% correct. Is this woman GOOD ENOUGH TO BE CALLED "YOUR WIFE"?
Also... are you GOOD ENOUGH to be HER HUSBAND? Are you the kind of partner that will support her even when she fucks up so badly that she has a hard time forgiving herself? Can you see the same from her?
Have you two discussed what you expect from one another in a marriage?
If you haven't - you had better get to talking about these things NOW.
Romance, shromance... that shit is hormones and will wear off right quick when you are tired and angry and disillusioned about the fantasy that American society sells you that marriage is SUPPOSED to be.
It is HARD FUKKIN WORK. A marriage is like anything else, though that is worth having. You have to work at it and tend to it every single day.... like your body/your mind/a garden/a career/or any other relationship.
Neither my husband or I even wanted a committed relationship, FORGET MARRIAGE... and yet we married on our third date. I still can't tell you EXACTLY what it was that made that thought click in his head. I suppose he can say... but what I can tell you is that for all of the bullshit we've been through (still a whole lot more ahead of us) I don't know what I did to deserve this man's commitment to ME and MY CHILDREN...
So now, you need to figure out what it is that WILL make her happy because marriage... NO, that is not an acceptable answer. Once she can express to you intelligently EXACTLY what will make her happy then you have to decide for yourself whether or not you are able and/willing to provide that. If you can't or don't want to then it is best to put the topic to bed.
As for the old addage about women marrying a man hoping to change him and men marrying hoping their women will never change - 100% TRUE FIRST TIME ROUND...
When individuals are older and wiser we realize that we only have control over ourselves so it is best to select a partner whose shortcomings we can live with.