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Is Serostim good for bodybuilding?

Stew Meat said:
Bro, GH is way overated.



-Stew


Just to let you know that GH is NOT what you think it is, and to show that I'm not just talking out of my ass...


"Serostim does increase lean body mass. Don't assume that lean body mass means muscle. Several studies indicate that growth hormone does not increase the portion of the lean body mass (LBM) that is known as muscle, even though growth hormone does increase "lean body mass". Note that LBM describes several compartments of tissue that include muscle, connective tissue, bone, organs, and water, too. These studies found that the increase in LBM with growth hormone consists of tissue other than muscle. Actually the increase in LBM appears to be mostly water, with perhaps a little connective tissue, and some organ tissue, too. (It should be underlined that organ tissue, like muscle tissue, wastes in HIV, and rebuilding of organ tissue by growth hormone could be an important effect that may improve overall health and survival."



"Effect of growth hormone and resistance exercise on muscle growth in young men." Yarasheski KE; Campbell JA; Smith K; Rennie MJ; Holloszy JO; Bier DM. Am J Physiol, 262(3 Pt 1):E261-7 1992 Mar

2. Effect of growth hormone and resistance exercise on muscle growth and strength in older men. Yarasheski KE; Zachwieja JJ; Campbell JA; Bier DM. Am J Physiol, 268(2 Pt 1):E268-76 1995 Feb

In this study there was also a lack of effect on muscle tissue, but in older men who lifted weights. The authors said: "The greater increase in fat free mass (FFM) with GH treatment may have been due to an increase in noncontractile protein and fluid retention." Note that "contractile protein" tissue is muscle, so "noncontractile" tissue could mean connective tissue like ligaments, or organs like kidneys.


3. Growth hormone effects on metabolism, body composition, muscle mass, and strength. Yarasheski KE. Exerc Sport Sci Rev, 22():285-312 1994

In this one the author said, "On the basis of the similar increases in muscle protein synthesis, muscle cross-sectional area, and muscle strength observed in placebo and GH-treated exercising young adults, it is doubtful that the nitrogen retention associated with daily GH treatment results in an increase in contractile protein, improved muscle function, strength and athletic performance."




-Stew
 
If you want to pay thousands of dollars for gyno, organ enlargement, brain tumors, migranes, irreversable disfigurement, and God knows what other long term damages, then by all means, go ahead. But I say GROWTH HHORMONE IS OVERATED.



-Stew
 
i disagree..30 days ago i could pull about 8 inches of fat from my lower abs.,....now i pull about 2 inches or less....and i doubt its from the tren or androgel becasue i just added both those 7 days ago
 
Serostim, Sustanon & Primobolan...

Well, that's your opinion but I have used GH before with great results (Zomacton). Before I used GH I did two cycles of steroids. First an oral steroid cycle then the next was an injectable steroid cycle. Due to my lack of knowledge, I lost all my 2nd cycle gains. So with my third I did the same steroids but added growth hormone. I gained twice as much weight, and it stayed on! Even after slacking off the past year, not eating right, not lifting, not juicing I am still keeping the majority of my gains. How can growth be overrated if I lost all my first gains from slacking off the first time, but then after adding growth to my next cycle I've managed to keep the majority of my gains even with slacking off. I say growth is definitely worth it, and either way I don't really care because I see the results I want with it. Whether the growth adds minimal results or major, I still get where I want a keep it. And that's what's important to me. And no more slacking off for me since I am living at home again and don't need to worry about bills! LOL! :D :cool: :)

-Seg
 
first of all ALL the top PROS are on GH and.shit just look at their jaws..yeah they are doing a shit load but to say it doesnt work is not true....or at least it has for me
 
Yes, you can make good gains from Serostim, but THAT WEIGHT GAIN IS NOT MUSCLE TISSUE. Pros use it as a fat burner... that is, the ones who do. The evidence provided above is irrefutable and conclusive. Just like I wouldn't gain muscle from eating a turd, you won't gain muscle from using Serostim. To say, "growth hormone worked miracles for me in gaining muscle" is saying "I'm a sucker everytime for the placebo effect."




-Stew
 
Why did I get the best gains then?

I'm not sure about Serostim, but isn't all GH the same since it's the same 191 amino acid chain? I know Serostim is missing a preservative called m-Cresol. But I don't think that effects it's outcome when used. So why is it that I got the best gains from using GH with Steroids? I worked out just as hard, ate the same amount, and slept the same amount. Nothing changed except for the additional of GH. I know what it's like to get massive gains from roids, and then gains with roids and GH together. And my body was just harder, stronger, bigger and more ripped with the GH additional, and I haven't lost the ripped look. So if Serostim is really useless, why is everyone I know using it? And why do they all look better then the guys I see using just roids?

-Seg :confused:
 
I know a few guys that have done GH and they all had the same results, i.e. lost fat. They stacked the GH with juice so in fact they look like they gained more lean mass from the GH, but it was the juice that gave them the muscle/strength gains. GH gave them mostly fat reduction.
I have read a lot on GH they all say that GH alone is not enough, you have to use juice with it. The big question is what's happening with their internal organs, i.e. are they getting larger, damaged, etc..

Question:
Why would you use GH if you have not maximized your juice gains?? Once you start using GH then you cannot go back to just roids!
 
M.O.D said:
stew is this your opinion on all gh or just serostim...what about humatrope

Just serostim... that's probalby why it is so cheap. However, all GH is way overated and will lead to very minimal additions as far as muscle gains.



-Stew
 
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