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Do you really thinks it the " edge" as some have stated here recently. I took it like 6 years ago but had a scare and stopped. Put on a shit load of weight fairly quickly taking it with sus and deca.

What kind do you all take and do you beleive as I do after workout with simple carbs and protein?
 
Gonna try it in a few weeks. Hopefully log. Would like to know as well. I do not want to gain any fat if it can be avoided but the added size is too damn tempting.
 
I have been on it in the past with good results. But, I guess being huge is not that important to me anymore.

I have settled with ala instead.

Nautica
 
I started a few weeks ago as a bridge. Haven't run it with gear yet so I haven't really blown up but it has helped me keep my gains from my cycle. I am at 20iu post workout (not going any higher, and no I did not start that high) I shoot IM to get it in my system faster and down 100g of carbs from dextrose and maltodextrin along with 50g of protein over the next 30min.........about 1-1.5 hrs after the shot I am eating another 100g carbs (lower gi) and another 50g protein, still no fat of course. I am not really getting bloated as alot of people say they do on the slin I am staying around 10-11% bf. I think it could be responsible for people blowing up though, I can actually see a difference in fullness and vascularity when I am on it....ESPECIALLY during a workout when I take a few iu before.
 
I don't know for sure myself, but my best friend is diabetic, and he told me that an IM insulin injection would not work, as it takes way to long for the insulin to become actaive (or it won't become actaive at all).

He was told this by his doctor by the way.

Anybody out there know FOR SURE! (No: "It worked for me")

Any diabetics know?
 
shit 20 iu's sounds like a lot. think I was taking 7 max when I has some problems but I compete lightweight. are you taking pure dextrose or are you buying a pre amde drink? I know dextrose is the right simple carb to use.

adonis there are different typess ome slow acting some faster so you will see amssive results from it if your not a dieabetic. On ansci board there was a very interesting post about insulin which made me think back t my days on it.
 
I started low at 5iu.....I have a high sensitivity to the slin at 20 I just started getting signs of hypo and that was b/c I was about 15 min late on my post post workout meal. Also remember this is R that I am using NOT humalog, I wouldn't try 20iu of log in one dose!

For the post shake I get it from proteinfactory.com
33% maltodextrin
33% dextrose
34% hydrolyzed whey
 
Hey Kizer-
When do you personally think the window to maximize gains by using slin post workout is closed? In other words can I go finish training drive 20 minutes then take a shot and stil
 
adonis there are different typess ome slow acting some faster so you will see amssive results from it if your not a dieabetic.
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I already know all about the use of insulin.

I have already done two cycles of 6 weeks, each with great results, going up as high as 14 iu.

My question was about INTRA-MUSCULAR insulin injections,

I have never done it intramuscular, as I was told it simply would not become actaive at all or only a little.

I was told this by a lifetime diabetic (non-bodybuilder) who was told this by his doctor.

I think i'll start a thread on it.:D
 
Elapid said:
Hey Kizer-
When do you personally think the window to maximize gains by using slin post workout is closed? In other words can I go finish training drive 20 minutes then take a shot and stil
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I think 20 will be okay but of course not optimal, I just pack the preloaded pin in a cooler with an ice pack. Keep my alcohol swabs with me, as soon as I get out of the gym I shoot it sitting in my car. If you are worried about people seeing you, you could go to an uncrowded parking lot nearby and then do it.
 
i just finished my first week of Humalog, im taking 10 iu's post workout, followed by 80-100 grams of dextrose,50 grams whey,10 grams creatine and 10 grams glutamine. I really like it so far, nice strength gains. i noticed that at about the 2 hour mark i have to have some sugars again, or else i start goin hypo, other than that its goin nice and smooth.
 
I use humalog at 10 iu post work out only , in 2nd week, the most noticible things are the strength, I use 10g creatine right after inj, and wait an hour and eat my protein and carbs
 
the best results i have seen on only insulin is taking a small dose right before a workout and another larger dose following the workout, this has a good anabolic effect, taken with enough carbs and protien it works well but this way of taking insulin u must be even more careful not to go into hypo
doses are rigth now
10 i.u. preworkout
20 i.u. postworkout
do not start with this high of doses
 
capt whats your weight? I have heard many folks taking slin before workouts but have also heard its more dangerous as your body fights for carbs that it loses while working out??? I hope I recalled that properly. What do you do when you feel hypo coming on?
 
i'm 6 ft 250lbs, i've been using humulin R, i've never had a problem while i'm working out i just make sure i have enough crbs in me before i go to the gym, however after the shot it is easier for me to fell the carb cravings and sweating befoere going into hypo, i just take a glycoload drink and some longer acting carbs. i've used insulin on and off now for a while during college FB, its a good thing to use as long as your smart and do not get lazy with your diet
 
i took humalog for a couple weeks, my friend is a diabetic and he hooked me up, anyways, i really didnt notice much
 
i had a test crash after current cycle, btw, nolva only does not work post cycle, f Bill W., and insulin has helped me get my strength back up, stabilize weight, and start feeling good pumps in the gym. I use 16 ius pst wk out, w/ 100g carbs 25/75 comp. to simp., and 50g protien, i use humalog im, 25 minutes befor eend of work out. Dont flame me, i knwo my body, this isnt my first go round w/ slin. Exactly 25 minutes post im injection i feel a little hypo. I have a stop watch to time, and my post wk out shake by my side after inj.
 
i use humalin R 10units in the am and 10units post workout around 6pm. i take it with growth usually.....but sometimes without. i take 60grams of protein right after subq injection along with 100grams of dextrose. i have only had one problem ...that is when my dumb ass forgot to take the dextrose. i almost passed out. any sugar can be taken with it...but you want to take one that is high glycemic, like dextrose.
 
Flexed:

I live in Austin too bro, and my sister is a diabetic, so I've watched insulin in various forms, in action for over 35 years.

I was always deathly afraid of it. Then I tried it and there was nothing to be afraid of (i read lots of these boards first, howeveer)

Never inject IM and Always use fast acting insulin, you want that shit out of your system as soon as possible (4hrs for humalog)

Most of the above posts are dead-on as far as carb and protein consumption post workout. ( I would never shoot insulin pre-workout, you're just askin for an ambulace ride with that one, no offense)

Insulin (for bodybuilding) is a "post-workout-protein-uptake for growth-MAXIMIZER"

Insulin acts as a very large and powerful "schoolbus" that transports way more protein quickly into your muscular system than you would be able to achieve without insulin. The carbs and simple sugars help to keep your blood sugars from droping too low to where you pass out.

It's very anabolic.

Always have a can of coke (warm or cold) near you just in case, coke works faster than any other beverage (I've saved my sisters life a few times with coke) It works fast (ask any good nurse)

As far as my experience goes I used no more than 10 IUs after and only after workouts, always with gear always with great results. Although I cant say if my growth came from gear, HGH or insulin, I can say that I grew(from 225 to 250lbs in 8 weeks)

Hope this helps you bro.

-growing
 
i agree with you on everything you said growing, however, my stupid diabetic friend just recently started trying to shoot his slin IM with bigger slin syringes (used to have .55 cc and 1/2 inch needles, now uses 1 cc and 1" needles) anyways, i just need a reason as to why what he is doing wont affect him with bodybuilding... thanks
 
for you,what's the correct ratio of carbs/protein that must be ingested the hour after the insulin shot and that permits to stay away from fat gains ?
I'm not talkin about the immediat shake of dextrose/prot/creatine/glutamine... post injection,I'm talking about the meal with complex carbs ...so ? :confused:
 
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has anyone used getpinz slin syringes? just wanted to check b4 i order...

thanks
 
Bump - I will be trying insulin with low dose test and eq next cycle, cant handle the heavy androgens if I dont want to go bald
 
since it seems just impossible to obtain insulin without prescription where I live,I wanted to ask to my source if he should send me some humalog.
My question is : how many times can slin stay out of a fridge ? and in a cold pack ?
 
maybe someone can answer my question. Im starting a slin cycle Jan. 6th 2003 with humalog. My question is if humalog is active in about 15-30 minutes and becomes unactive in about 4 hours, am I wanting to eat a lot of protein during those 4 hours without fat? I know to take 100g carbs with 50g protein immediately after injection, but can someone just go over what I do in those 4 hours briefly??
 
Ferdinan said:
maybe someone can answer my question. Im starting a slin cycle Jan. 6th 2003 with humalog. My question is if humalog is active in about 15-30 minutes and becomes unactive in about 4 hours, am I wanting to eat a lot of protein during those 4 hours without fat? I know to take 100g carbs with 50g protein immediately after injection, but can someone just go over what I do in those 4 hours briefly??
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you must eat a shake with dextrose+prot immediatly after the shot and one hour after you must eat a meal made of complex carbs+protein...take all the informations necessary about the "post slin shot" cuz it can save your life bro...
ALWAYS have a soda or something with free sugar with you and if you feel one of the bad effects of hypo,take it IMMEDIATLY or things should be wrong for you...
take care bro :)
 
cool !! i just read Humalog can stay out of fridge for 30 days !!
they send it in a cold pack,but even if this cold pack is not cold anymore when it comes home,no problem !!!
do you think it's without risk to let slin out of the fridge for 30 days ??
 
mike1107 said:
thanx grafix-GNC...how long does an 10ml humalog vial last ? which one do you choose among their choice?
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100units=1mL, you should take no more than 10units post-workout, so you do the math depending on how much you are gonna choose to do, but if you were to run 10 units post workout, then 10units x 10units=1mL x 10mL=1000units... 1000units/10units per-workout=100uses

so 10mL bottle of Humalog will last you 100 uses at 10units every time, however, its very very dangerous, i wouldnt advise using it unless your sure you know what your doing
 
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