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dont quote me on this but i did hear that using gh makes you more insulin resistant so using slin can actually help prevent you from becoming diabetic. worth finding out more about.
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INSULIN conclusions
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Nelson, got to back you somewhat on your post.
I know a couple of guys who've hardly juice for a year...still at the 200lb mark and they are using insulin! They are 20-22 years old.
I do beleive that there is a use for insulin...it should be used by vets that have almost maxed out on steroids and need an extra boost.
I know a couple of guys who've hardly juice for a year...still at the 200lb mark and they are using insulin! They are 20-22 years old.
I do beleive that there is a use for insulin...it should be used by vets that have almost maxed out on steroids and need an extra boost.
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Frackal
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Nelson my purpose for using light slin is to add some anabolic potential back because I will be using low dose anabolics in order to be able to hold onto my hair....
I realize that the risk can be significant, but also things need to be put in perspective...
I respect you and am eager to hear what you have to say, if you wouldnt mind answering these qs for me..
1. Pancreatic damage... I know its possible (I have not heard of it before) but where did you get this information.
2. What makes you say that the benefits are marginal at best? I think the benefits for an ectomorph in particular could be huge...especially with the possibility of maturing dormant muscle cells.
3. Again, things should be put in perspective a bit...there is a big difference between using humalog 1-2x a week 2x a day than to use say a long actin insulin and humalog 3x a day 5 days a week...
Further... when I do a cycle, I need to be able to grow BIG from it...I am taking a risk each time I order steroids, and I dont like doing more than 1-2 per year discounting anavar ...
Anyway I know your experience is vast in BB so can you go into more detail with my questions? Yes you may be Nelson Montana but its never wise to take anyone's word as gospel.....thanks Nelson, looking forward to hearing what you have to say.
I realize that the risk can be significant, but also things need to be put in perspective...
I respect you and am eager to hear what you have to say, if you wouldnt mind answering these qs for me..
1. Pancreatic damage... I know its possible (I have not heard of it before) but where did you get this information.
2. What makes you say that the benefits are marginal at best? I think the benefits for an ectomorph in particular could be huge...especially with the possibility of maturing dormant muscle cells.
3. Again, things should be put in perspective a bit...there is a big difference between using humalog 1-2x a week 2x a day than to use say a long actin insulin and humalog 3x a day 5 days a week...
Further... when I do a cycle, I need to be able to grow BIG from it...I am taking a risk each time I order steroids, and I dont like doing more than 1-2 per year discounting anavar ...
Anyway I know your experience is vast in BB so can you go into more detail with my questions? Yes you may be Nelson Montana but its never wise to take anyone's word as gospel.....thanks Nelson, looking forward to hearing what you have to say.
Frackal: To answer you questions:
1...Damage to the pancreas is a no brainer. And with the influx of any exogeneous substance/hormone, endogenous production slows down. Now that's bad enough with the HPTA, but at least it's resiliant and supression won't kill you. No pancreas = no life. Not to mention, the more you use, the more likely of developing diabetes -- or in the least, a less effiecient pancreas.
2...The dormant muscle cell theory benefit is a stretch, at best. Benificial to ecomorphs? So is a lot of food. What's ironic is that you hear so much about cutting carbs on these boards. Hell, carbs release insulin! Bulking up with carbs is easy -- but it should be good carbs and most people ignore the best carb of all -- lactose.
3...Sure, less is better than more. But nobody ever died from an OD of testosterone. (The oil will kill you before the hormone does) Why the fuck would you mess around with something so lethal? You're afraid of losing some HAIR??!?! Come on man!
Lots of guys got big without insulin. Only the pros who finish in the top ten need to be bigger than everybody else. Are you in the top ten?
Eat big. Lift big. And yes, roids will help. Insulin is a suckers game. Just my opinion bro. I ain't saying it for any other reason than I hope it keeps somebody from hurting themselves.
1...Damage to the pancreas is a no brainer. And with the influx of any exogeneous substance/hormone, endogenous production slows down. Now that's bad enough with the HPTA, but at least it's resiliant and supression won't kill you. No pancreas = no life. Not to mention, the more you use, the more likely of developing diabetes -- or in the least, a less effiecient pancreas.
2...The dormant muscle cell theory benefit is a stretch, at best. Benificial to ecomorphs? So is a lot of food. What's ironic is that you hear so much about cutting carbs on these boards. Hell, carbs release insulin! Bulking up with carbs is easy -- but it should be good carbs and most people ignore the best carb of all -- lactose.
3...Sure, less is better than more. But nobody ever died from an OD of testosterone. (The oil will kill you before the hormone does) Why the fuck would you mess around with something so lethal? You're afraid of losing some HAIR??!?! Come on man!
Lots of guys got big without insulin. Only the pros who finish in the top ten need to be bigger than everybody else. Are you in the top ten?
Eat big. Lift big. And yes, roids will help. Insulin is a suckers game. Just my opinion bro. I ain't saying it for any other reason than I hope it keeps somebody from hurting themselves.
I know for a fact that over half of the last NPC National competitors did not use insulin. No bullshit here, just the facts. I am getting my info from two (not one, but two) different guys who i know that placed within the top five in the heavyweight, and superheavyweight Nationals. I just bought some humalin-R a few weeks ago...looks like i will be holding off, as i am nowhere near maxing out on the sauce.
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ryker77
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I just started humalog only post workout 2on1off days. 5ius only with creatine shake at the gym - shot once I get home along with a glass of cranberry juice and glutamine. Then 45-55 grams of whey with skim milk. 2 weeks on and two weeks off to combo with the GH. Might switch to only one week off with the gh buy will keep the slin at 2on and 2off.
the_only_sepe
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I have used slin and have stopped using it, there is no reason to to play with something that has that big of a potential of fucking you up, also after reading tom princes thoughts on slin and how he doesnt use it made me think, wtf am I doing? I now use ala after workouts and dont have to worry about passing out. big relief!
