Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below i've been reading over all the previous posts for 1,4 andro, and i'm getting ready to order it in the powder form from BAC....Can you take the powder straight orally as long as you have a scoop to measure it out, or does it have to be in a capsule to be effective.....also has anyone had any success with this supplement, i was thinkin about stackin it with 1-AD, but i'm really interested in finding out how good the PH is by itself.....any info or experiences on it will be greatly appreciated
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riskybizz007
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Bro I will be placing my order w/ beyond-a-century very soon for the 1,4andro as well stacked w/ 1test and 1AD. I'm bumping up for any users of 1,4 w/ comments.
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riskybizz007
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I can tell you that food interferes w/ absorption of most drugs. And since 1,4 wont bother your stomach you're better off taking on empty stomach for better absorption.
riskybizz007
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so is 1AD or 1,4andro lipid soluble?
About BAC, i just placed my order for the 20g of 1,4 andro. I bought capsules size 00 to put in there. I also have 3 bottles of 1AD, I'll see how it stacks together.
About BAC, i just placed my order for the 20g of 1,4 andro. I bought capsules size 00 to put in there. I also have 3 bottles of 1AD, I'll see how it stacks together.
40butpumpin
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I bought a bottle of 1,4 andro from BAC about 8 weeks ago or so. It comes with a little spoon in it and gives info on how much to take. I trippled that. I got pretty solid from it and I definitely liked it. I would definitely buy it again. I also bought the other dht product, damn I can't remember the name of it. I liked that too. As far as whether it's as effective in a powder as in a capsule, I have no doubt that it is. As far as stacking with 1-AD, yes! I had good results with 1-AD. I also tried Mag-10 and I also liked that. I think a nice stack would be the combination of Mag-10 (or 1-test but I like the addition of 4-AD to Mag-10), 1,4 andro and 1-AD. But I'd bump all of the dosages up to triple what's on the bottle, keep the cycle no longer than 6 weeks and also get some HCG for when you're done as well as Arimidex for during. Like 1/4mg eod. I know some of you don't like hearing that but you have to face the facts, this stuff will act on your body just like the real thing will. You WILL get shut down if you don't protect yourself. Anyway, I hope that helps. But I'm now waiting on Molecular Nutrition's new product which is coming out in the coming weeks. Supposed to be ass-kickin'!!!
40butpumpin,
do you remeber how many mg's of the 1,4 you took a day, and did you just chase the powder with water? also do you remeber what kind of gains you got from it.....i think i'm going to try it by itself, just to see if it legit, i'll let you guys know my results.....right now i'm 5'7'' and 176.....thanks again for all the input
do you remeber how many mg's of the 1,4 you took a day, and did you just chase the powder with water? also do you remeber what kind of gains you got from it.....i think i'm going to try it by itself, just to see if it legit, i'll let you guys know my results.....right now i'm 5'7'' and 176.....thanks again for all the input
riskybizz007
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40 i'm also wondering what were your gains, and how much weight you put on during the 1,4.
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40butpumpin
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Sorry I took so long to respond, I can't do much from home in the evenings.
SwaffRx, riskybizz007, I took about 1.5 grams per day and mixed it in some water. That's mainly because water's about the only thing I drink. As far as gains, I'm afraid I honestly didn't keep track of my weight. However, there is no question I looked and felt bigger, stronger and harder. If you don't mind my rambling, I remember one day I was getting into the shower first thing in the morning, looked in the mirror and said "holy shit!" I looked good, that all I can say about it. But I have to tell you, it took a few weeks before I noticed anything. At first I was totally disappointed, I thought it was total bs. In fact I was going to call BAC and tell them they had a bs product. Then I just started noticing things. But not to say it's any better than Mag-10 or 1-AD because I had very similar experiences with both of those. I wasn't able to continue with the 1,4 andro beyond a little over 3 weeks because I picked up a nasty respiratory infection which I'm sorry to say I'm not completely over yet, 4 rounds of anti-biotics later. Argh! One other thing is I was stacking my 1,4 andro with 5-alpha,andro and 4-ad, both from BAC also. Well, I hope that helps both of you but as you said, the best thing is to try it yourself and see if it's legit. The only thing I'll say is give it at least a few weeks before you form opinions. Good luck.
SwaffRx, riskybizz007, I took about 1.5 grams per day and mixed it in some water. That's mainly because water's about the only thing I drink. As far as gains, I'm afraid I honestly didn't keep track of my weight. However, there is no question I looked and felt bigger, stronger and harder. If you don't mind my rambling, I remember one day I was getting into the shower first thing in the morning, looked in the mirror and said "holy shit!" I looked good, that all I can say about it. But I have to tell you, it took a few weeks before I noticed anything. At first I was totally disappointed, I thought it was total bs. In fact I was going to call BAC and tell them they had a bs product. Then I just started noticing things. But not to say it's any better than Mag-10 or 1-AD because I had very similar experiences with both of those. I wasn't able to continue with the 1,4 andro beyond a little over 3 weeks because I picked up a nasty respiratory infection which I'm sorry to say I'm not completely over yet, 4 rounds of anti-biotics later. Argh! One other thing is I was stacking my 1,4 andro with 5-alpha,andro and 4-ad, both from BAC also. Well, I hope that helps both of you but as you said, the best thing is to try it yourself and see if it's legit. The only thing I'll say is give it at least a few weeks before you form opinions. Good luck.
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riskybizz007
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40, you took 1.5g of 1,4andro ed? Damn that's the biggest dose I've ever heard of. Well I hope it works for me too... mine should be coming in any day now but I'll be taking 600mg every day till I run out.
40butpumpin
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Well, one third of a scoop is 100mg. I took a full scoop four times per day. That's 12*100mg or 1200mg per day. I believe the way to go with that stuff is high dosages for shorter periods. But that's JMO I've formed from personal experience.
40butpumpin
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Hey, Patrick. That's correct, you have to keep swashing it around and adding a bit more water to collect what's stuck to the side of the glass. Kind of a pain in the ass, but you get it all eventually. One of the evils of buying bulk in powder I guess. And that's not the worst of it, either the 1,4 andro or the 5andro tastes horrible. Is there a better way? Please tell me.
riskybizz007
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I agree w/ all of the above except the protein shake. Just b/c you have a lot of that left over around the glass residue. I'd hate to think my PH is in there somewhere. 
I was thinking about the gelcaps, put them w/ some oil like flax and inject into the gelcap.
I was thinking about the gelcaps, put them w/ some oil like flax and inject into the gelcap.
i was actually wondering about the gel caps myself but i have no idea how to make them....(by the way risk do you check your pm's i pmed you awhile ago and never heard back from you)
heres a cool stacking link for anyone interested,it from a wholesaler but i think theres some useful info here http://www.undergroundsports.com/molecular_boldione.htm
heres a cool stacking link for anyone interested,it from a wholesaler but i think theres some useful info here http://www.undergroundsports.com/molecular_boldione.htm
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riskybizz007
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My bad wojo, hardly ever check my PM's. Sometimes when I do check it it's been sent over a month ago so I don't even answer back. I'll be checking them more frequently.
Alright, I just got my 1,4 ADD from BAC.....i'm going to take 600mg/daily (200mg/3x a day)....from all i've read i definitely need to take this orally, but i don't have a capsule makin machine......does anyone know of a good way to take this powder orally??....I'm trying to find an oral vechicle that will increase the absorption of the ph....due to the lipophilic properties of hormones i've read that grapefruit juice will help increase absorption....if anyone has any comments or knowledge on this, hook a brother up!!!.....I appreciate all the feedback
riskybizz007 said:I agree w/ all of the above except the protein shake. Just b/c you have a lot of that left over around the glass residue. I'd hate to think my PH is in there somewhere.
I was thinking about the gelcaps, put them w/ some oil like flax and inject into the gelcap.
Jeezus with all that effort you might as well just pay a little extra and buy a bottle of caps from a reputable company. No?
riskybizz007
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You have no idea how cheap I am.... 
Re: Re: just my 2
seripusly pat,i wish i could afford to.i am currently in college and work5 days,just to make ends meet(i had to wait till the age of 24 to start college because of finances) a week.to top that off i'm studying to be a digital artist(so i'm broke as a joke).this is personally my first time buying any bulk powder from anywhere.
to be honest i can see your problem with it,but if you think about how many people acyually know where to buy bulk ph's and want to mess with the stuff.i doubt they will make that much of an impact on your company.for what its worth i appreciate the effort and time you put into your products and have in the past bought from you and will in the future do so again.just can't afford it now.
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seripusly pat,i wish i could afford to.i am currently in college and work5 days,just to make ends meet(i had to wait till the age of 24 to start college because of finances) a week.to top that off i'm studying to be a digital artist(so i'm broke as a joke).this is personally my first time buying any bulk powder from anywhere.
to be honest i can see your problem with it,but if you think about how many people acyually know where to buy bulk ph's and want to mess with the stuff.i doubt they will make that much of an impact on your company.for what its worth i appreciate the effort and time you put into your products and have in the past bought from you and will in the future do so again.just can't afford it now.
wojo
riskybizz007
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you can buy empty capsules, even at the same sight. Bought size 00 and just got about 200mg in each capsule.
I'll be running 600mg of 1,4 w/ 600mg of 1AD.
I'll be running 600mg of 1,4 w/ 600mg of 1AD.
