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I'm out of the game my friends

Thaibox

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I’ve always lived my life by pride and honor. I’ve considered myself a warrior and hence followed the path of one. I always took the road of the difficult, challenging, and even the impossible. I always made sure that I held myself to much higher standards than the above average person, and would never quit or even hesitate in the face of difficulty, danger, or adversity. In 1995 I was discharged from the military for two partially herniated discs. I was told I should not fight again, and certainly should not squat or deadlift. I began fighting again and held a nearly perfect record, until I destroyed my right knee. It was unavoidable that I could no longer fight. However, I continued to lift and put every ounce of myself into my new passion as hard and as heavy as I could push my mind, regardless of what my body said. I lived, ate, and slept with the thought of dominating the plates in my head and my heart. I thought of myself as a machine, capable of any physical feat. People kept telling me I "can’t" do that or I should "ease up." Ironically, these were the exact words that simply drove me harder. Injuries would simply piss me off and push me with more fire. I would wrap or brace up my knee, elbow, or just tighten my belt more and drench myself in analgesics. I knew there were tougher dudes out there working harder under worse conditions. I lost girlfriends that couldn’t stand that I dedicated myself so much to the gym. I lost friends that were tired of me going home at 10:00 because I had to lift the next day, or they were tired of me not drinking or partying. I was hauling ass down the road I chose, and not anyone nor anything would stand in my fucking way including my own body.

This is where I made my mistake. I have been forced to listen to reality and it has finally been concluded that the damage I have done is permanent and significant. The 2 discs that were previously damaged now make it almost impossible for me to walk without a cane. I have also done considerable damage to several others, including compression in all 12 of the lower discs. My back is also very abnormal naturally, which no one deemed to tell me before. I also get to have knee and shoulder surgery after my back. Tomorrow I talk to the surgeon about my first surgery. After the first surgery, due to the state that my back is now in, heavy deadlifts would do damage that would render me pretty much useless forever.

Last week I got fed-up, focused myself, took some painkillers, rubbed on strong analgesics, stretched out, tightened my belt and started deadlifting. I pulled my warm-up weight of 135 and dropped it hard. The pain was so bad I could hardly see let alone stand. After all these years, I had been beaten.

Before I quit, my mediocre personal records are as follows…..

Bench: 405 (I can no longer flat bench do to a rotator injury. But I hope that may change someday)

Deadlift: 585 (I almost got 600 needsize:) )

Squat: 405 atf (as high as I could go with my knee)

Military: 295

Heaviest Bodyweight: 265 lbs

I haven’t been doing OL’s for very long, so the numbers weren’t very impressive.

I will never stop lifting what I can, but its clear that any "lifting" I do will be from relatively light machines or simple isolation things. I'll be losing weight pretty regularly for a while and strength with it. I’m sorry for whining like this, but I’ve come to know many of you and appreciate your "virtual" friendship as well as the knowledge that has been given to me by so many inspirational souls. I felt that it was appropriate to share this with you, as much as it would be for a newbie to share his beginning.

I haven’t actually cried in many years(the discipline thing I instill upon myself) until tonight. I keep thinking of 600 lbs loaded on the bar waiting for me to deadlift it, and I never will. It will just sit there now. My dream has evaded me and my pride is fading. I have accepted defeat as a reality. I feel so empty I can’t describe it. Sounds pretty strange how much a bunch of metal has affected me. I suppose I must find something to do with myself now. I don’t plan on leaving the boards, but I don’t think I deserve to be handing out any advice.

Please be careful with yourselves my friends. There are many big hearts in here that are on their way to great things. Don’t be too impatient to get there, and listen to your bodies. You only get one.

"Defeat is a state of mind. No one is ever defeated until defeat has been accepted as a reality. To me, defeat in anything is merely temporary, and its punishment is but an urge for me to greater effort to achieve my goal. Defeat simply tells me that something is wrong in my doing; it is a path leading to success and truth." — Bruce Lee

:)Sorry for sounding like such a whiner
 
Don't stare too long at the closed door or you might miss the open one.


Hands folded, fingers crossed...
 
Now...you know I believe all of that except the parts about defeat, quitting, and giving up.

All goals in battle must consistantly be redefined. All of them. Do you remember an older gentleman who used to train with me? Bover...56 years old, 2' of steel holding his spine together, steel pins in each shoulder, one leg 4" shorter than the other, heart conditions, had 3 heart attacks in October 2001, and the list goes on and on. He never quit...just constantly redefined his goals...and ACHIEVED them with the same intensity.

Think about that...redefine your goals and ACHIEVE them with the same intensity. As you get older and work with injuries and limitations...you must become smarter in your training as well as your competing. I remember Odd Haugden (50+ years old top pro strongman) telling me that he was not as strong or as fast as he was 20 years ago...but he was MUCH smarter and that is how he still makes it to the Worlds every year.

Ken Eubanks is in his 60's and still sparrs and competes. He isn't as fast as he was when he was in his 30's...but he is a much smarter fighter (and you never ever ever want to get hit by his reverse punch...ever...ever).

B True
 
Thaibox man,
I don't know what to say...
I want to wish you the best of luck with your surgeries, and hopefully you will be able to do some sort of lifting still once all your procedures have been completed.
From the 6 months I've been here, I have to say you are one of the most valuable resources on this board with all your experience, and there would be absolutely no reason for your to cease giving advice.
There will always be a spot for you here man...
When one door closes another one opens....
Your not defeated.... You've accomplished more than 99.99% of people in this iron world accomplish in your life and you are still young. I'd be pretty proud of those numbers if I were you.
Keep us up to date on your status bro.... You have my best wishes
 
Ouch that really hurt me too - I feel for you.

Remeber the reverse hyper for rehab. You just might get back good as new!
 
sorry to hear that. but you are only 27. you will still have time to recover from the surgeries and get back into the game. i wish you luck, and don't lose your drive. hang in there.
 
All I can say is before going under the knife visit prolonews.com and do some reading, find a doc in your area and at least see what he has to say.

The back is an intricate peice of work and the body is a marvel at healing itself if we do not get too involved. Often times surgery can not be undone so I simply ask that for your own good check into prolo. You can always go under the knife but once you do there is no turning back. Yes surgery has its place, but I would try simpler methods/aproaches prior to taking that step. Dont get blinded by what your sugery doc has to say and look into prolo with an open mind. Many many people over the years in situations as bad if not worse than yours have made miracolous recoveries using prolo. I wish you the best!
 
Thaibox said:
I’ve always lived my life by pride and honor. I’ve considered myself a warrior and hence followed the path of one.

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And the path will continue. Choose wisely and use all the wits that have made you the man you are today. Physical injury can not take away the knowledge you have gained over the years.

Your numbers are tremendous. Maybe not for the world record holders but think in general. How many people do you think can say they have ever achieved your fitness goals? I say it has to be less than 5% of the population.

Think about how many times you had an injury or felt a strange pain beyond normal and thought that was the end. The end of all fitness, forever. There is always another beginning. No matter what happens to me, no matter how it happens, there is always another beginning.
 
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