If pin is too short, AAS don't work?

[deadfred]

I am about 3 weeks in on a 750 sust/400 deca cycle and my gains have been very low so far (2 lbs). 99.9 % of the time if I have a problem with gaining it is due to me being light on my diet, but not this time. I was beginning to suspect bunk gear because Sust always has left me a little sore before and I haven’t felt anything.

Then I noticed I have been using 1” instead of my normal 1.5” for glute shots. I just switch over to the 1.5” and Aaaah there’s the burn that I have been missing. So I hope my problem has been that I haven’t been injecting deep enough into the muscle and most of it was going sub-Q.
Has anyone heard of this type of problem before?

As a side note I was trying 25g pins and will never use them again for oil based. The 23g don’t feel any different going in and inject much easier. (18g to fill)

 

[swordfish151]

I am about 3 weeks in on a 750 sust/400 deca cycle and my gains have been very low so far (2 lbs). 99.9 % of the time if I have a problem with gaining it is due to me being light on my diet, but not this time. I was beginning to suspect bunk gear because Sust always has left me a little sore before and I haven’t felt anything.

Then I noticed I have been using 1” instead of my normal 1.5” for glute shots. I just switch over to the 1.5” and Aaaah there’s the burn that I have been missing. So I hope my problem has been that I haven’t been injecting deep enough into the muscle and most of it was going sub-Q.
Has anyone heard of this type of problem before?

As a side note I was trying 25g pins and will never use them again for oil based. The 23g don’t feel any different going in and inject much easier. (18g to fill)

The gear still works just takes longer to get into your system if you inject it sub-Q.

 

[surferstar]

The gear still works just takes longer to get into your system if you inject it sub-Q.

Exactly as well as a greater chance of abcess or infection I believe.

 

[newbiebynature]

is 5/8 deep enuff for your delt? my trainer uses 1 1/2 and i think hes an idiot

 

[i am what i am]

is 5/8 deep enuff for your delt? my trainer uses 1 1/2 and i think hes an idiot

I've used 1.5 before with no problems. Obviously I don't put it in all the way, but its not that bad.

 

[Workout King]

the length of the need mainly just depends on how much Bodyfat you need to go thru to get in the muscle.

 

[jacked clown]

the length of the need mainly just depends on how much Bodyfat you need to go thru to get in the muscle.

How does that make since most people who use steroids are 15% or lower so i doubt they have to go through a inch of fat. I believe it depends on muscle mass.

 

[peerchek]

1in pins in the glute will definetly raise the risk of infection or abscess. i had a budy who was shooting winny with 1in pins in his glute after 2-3 weeks of that a nasty softball size abscess formed, he had to have it surgically drained..... As for test i dont know if there would be any difference.. so dont do it, go get some 1.5 immediatly

 

[i am what i am]

thats why you need to rotate sites.

 

[peerchek]

thats why you need to rotate sites.

ya your right, my buddy didnt.... i still wouldnt take the chance with 1 inchers

 

[immortalis]

Exactly as well as a greater chance of abcess or infection I believe.

What both SwordFish and Surfer said.

 

[UFC22]

Ex) Lay down on your left side, put your leg in front of the one you are laying on (which would be your left), twist torso, inject with right hand into right glute. This method ables you to use 1in pins in your glute more effectively since your are streatched out and there is not much fat build up in the are (if u have a fat ass). When you are standing and injecting into the glute you bypass more fat on the way to the muscle, hope this helped!

 

[thelion2005]

The gear still works just takes longer to get into your system if you inject it sub-Q.

Try the quads as depicted below. Muscle is much closer to surface.

http://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm

 

[TheRide]

Exactly as well as a greater chance of abcess or infection I believe.

Yes - that is why they need to be IM not sub-Q injections.... growth can be sub-Q I believe but AAS need to be a deep muscle depot. 1" are fine for quads and delts but gluts they can come up short...