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paintballproam

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Im on diesel, 19-tren tfo, and forged liver support, just started week 4, 3caps a day on each

yesterday my left kidney (im guessing its my kidney, feels like thats what it would be) had a dull ache all day then today same thing, walked around the mall for 4 hours with my girl and it got worse, came home laid down, still hurts.

im supposed to take my dose at 12, but havnt yet, is there any chance the tren/diesel is fucking my kidney?? should i stop taking it or am i fine to keep going? please respond asap!
 
paintballproam said:
Im on diesel, 19-tren tfo, and forged liver support, just started week 4, 3caps a day on each

yesterday my left kidney (im guessing its my kidney, feels like thats what it would be) had a dull ache all day then today same thing, walked around the mall for 4 hours with my girl and it got worse, came home laid down, still hurts.

im supposed to take my dose at 12, but havnt yet, is there any chance the tren/diesel is fucking my kidney?? should i stop taking it or am i fine to keep going? please respond asap!
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Just stop taking them bro.. It happens some times. Pain will go away in a few days. Stop taking them and start the pct..
 
Cranberry Extract is good for kidneys (I think)
its a supplement I take all the time to help keep the organs clean.
I use to get the odd kidney pains when I was drinking a lot. Dont think its too serious.. more of a warning.
 
better to be safe than sorry... But I had the same kind of feeling once, turned out to be a combination between lower back pumps and being sore.
 
Happened to me on the right side during PCT, and maybe once during my cycle. It went away in about 24-48 hours.
 
im not calling anyone wrong. if i had to put my money on something it would be the stop the cycle and start flushing with real cranberry juice and shit loads of water, BUT not knowing what was wrong with me while knowing that something was going wrong i would go to the er and find out quick. it is possible that something else could be wrong that we dont know about. dont play around and guess when it comes to your organs. you need them.
 
Are you guys not running any cycle support supps other than liver support when on-cycle? Cycle support supps like AI's cycle support and CEL Cycle Assist will greatly cut down on all sides. At least they do for me. I preload and run them through PCT. I never have sides (knock on wood).

I agree with joe d. PCT and cranberry juice and water.
 
Good to know SL. I'm starting my cycle on monday. Think I'll pick up the CEL.
 
Cycle Support by Anabolic Minds? That doesn't contain a single ingredient that is beneficial to the kidneys.

Dandelion. Turmeric. Chlorophyll, Olive leaf and water. Stop all orals.
 
Do you drink alot of caffeine? because the combination of what you are taking and caffeine would for sure cause kidney pain.
 
alright well i really couldnt sit at the computer any longer last night so i went to bed
i drank about 24oz water before bed, and then drank another 36oz throughout the night whenever id get up to go to the br. got up, drank another 24oz. its no where near as bad as it was last night, but still hurts.

i found an old tub of cycle support with about 5 scoops in it so i took a scoop before bed last night.

after starting to get puffy nipples last week, (taking letro as instructed by needtoo) i decided i wanted to add more to my pct, i have forged pct i was planning on using, i was going to stack it with sustain alpha but my order hasnt come yet. i do have a bottle of reversitol on hand as well.

so should i deffinatly stop taking the diesel and tren?
 
paintballproam said:
alright well i really couldnt sit at the computer any longer last night so i went to bed
i drank about 24oz water before bed, and then drank another 36oz throughout the night whenever id get up to go to the br. got up, drank another 24oz. its no where near as bad as it was last night, but still hurts.

i found an old tub of cycle support with about 5 scoops in it so i took a scoop before bed last night.

after starting to get puffy nipples last week, (taking letro as instructed by needtoo) i decided i wanted to add more to my pct, i have forged pct i was planning on using, i was going to stack it with sustain alpha but my order hasnt come yet. i do have a bottle of reversitol on hand as well.

so should i deffinatly stop taking the diesel and tren?[/quote]

unless you dont want your kidneys anymore.
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niightz said:
Do you drink alot of caffeine? because the combination of what you are taking and caffeine would for sure cause kidney pain.
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How much caffeine are we talking here? I drink two cups of coffee every morning. That gonna cause a problem?
 
paintballproam said:
alright well i really couldnt sit at the computer any longer last night so i went to bed
i drank about 24oz water before bed, and then drank another 36oz throughout the night whenever id get up to go to the br. got up, drank another 24oz. its no where near as bad as it was last night, but still hurts.

i found an old tub of cycle support with about 5 scoops in it so i took a scoop before bed last night.

after starting to get puffy nipples last week, (taking letro as instructed by needtoo) i decided i wanted to add more to my pct, i have forged pct i was planning on using, i was going to stack it with sustain alpha but my order hasnt come yet. i do have a bottle of reversitol on hand as well.

so should i deffinatly stop taking the diesel and tren?
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Dude, how many times do you have to be told?
 
"How much caffeine are we talking here? I drink two cups of coffee every morning. That gonna cause a problem?"

That totally depends on the person some people can barely tolerate any caffeine while others can take in loads with no problems. I was just courious about his situation, and was wanting to help him get to the bottom of it. I used to have kidney pains alot, I completely dropped caffeine and now even when on lots of supplements and aas I get zero pains. Also caffeine is not freindly to your prostate, so for me while it has it's perks its not worth taking in. To be honest if the caffeine doesnt bother you atm I wouldnt put to much concern into it. :)
 
Nelson Montana said:
Cycle Support by Anabolic Minds? That doesn't contain a single ingredient that is beneficial to the kidneys.

Dandelion. Turmeric. Chlorophyll, Olive leaf and water. Stop all orals.
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Is this in any of the Support supps? Yours or needtos or something?
Would be a nice addition maybe if it helps the kidneys. :)

Do you think Cranberry is not worthwhile though?
 
Is your pee burny and frothy because that's a sign they can't handle the load and are not filtering 100%.. Regardless I'd go to the dr and have him check (pee in a cup yo).

How much water do you take in a day? I'd shoot for 1.5-2 gal...

:-)
 
Nelson Montana said:
Cycle Support by Anabolic Minds? That doesn't contain a single ingredient that is beneficial to the kidneys.

Dandelion. Turmeric. Chlorophyll, Olive leaf and water. Stop all orals.
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Anabolic Minds????

Anabolic Innovations. You're right. Cycle Support does not contain anything specifically for your kidneys. It does contain a number of ingredients to keep your blood pressure and cholesterol in check. Running these oral can wreck your cholesterol and jack up your blood pressure. You're the board expert so I know, that you know this. Running these oral steroids without proper support supps is stupid and reckless imo.

Cycle Support - Cycle Support
 
Drewb said:
Is your pee burny and frothy because that's a sign they can't handle the load and are not filtering 100%.. Regardless I'd go to the dr and have him check (pee in a cup yo).

How much water do you take in a day? I'd shoot for 1.5-2 gal...

:-)
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i never have any caffeine except yesterday i had half a redline 7hour energy so 175mg

i get a gallon a day, except as of last night ive started drinking a ton more, peeing almost every 10minutes now.lol

no its not burny or frothy, i did however pee on cement about 1.5weeks ago and after a few seconds it looked frothy on the cement but oother than that its seemed normal.


its still feeling better as the day goes on.

only reason i want to be possitive about stopping or not is im 195lbs and realllyyyy would love to break 200lbs, plus i woont have sustain alpha till monday or tuesday, all i have is forged/reversitol
 
Dude, 5lbs aint worth your kidneys. You can get that 5lbs without the help. Think of it this way, lose a kidney...they gotta way at least a pound a piece, you're back to 198 :D
 
Come off it. I'd get the std post cyc blood work/tests done asap also just so you know were your at...
 
alright well im feeling alot better but i guess ill stop taking and start pct tomorrow =/
is it ok if im only taking the forged for the first few days before i get the sustain?
 
i have forged pct oon hand, plus reversitol, and just found a bottle of test booster in the cabinet
i have ordered sustain alpha

what should i do for pct? take just the forged and then start thoe sustain when it gets here along with the forged? or should i use the reversitol and test booster too?
 
I've used all sorts of orals, never had 1 kidney problem and bloodwork has come back flawless. My friend used Beastdrol and Tren TFO normal doses and after 2 weeks he got kidney pain. Everybody is different. Do not mess around with your health man. Goodluck.
 
My liver functions always come in high mid-end cyc but are back to normal pretty fast.... Blood work Pre, mid and post cyc is so important esp with orals..
 
I had kidney pains real bad on the beast. I pissed blood, went to the ER and got a 6,200.00 bill from the hospital. I stopped the beast and was back to normal in a week. I as well had problems and had to stop. I know how you feel... defeated. I have 2 bottles of deisel, but I'm nervous to try it so soon. I will try it this winter and will drink a lot of water. The first signs of any kidney pain and I will stop that day.... not worth it... at all, but the caps are still calling me. Don't wait until you're in the ER to stop. I wonder if we are "permenently" damaging our kidneys?
 
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