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i heard that diet soda might trigger insulin release just by virtue of being sweet

So far no evidence for that.

I think there are other health hazards associated with consuming large quantities of artificial sweetners.

I got this one from a Buddhist monk, and I think it is applicable in this situation:

The poison is in the dosage.

I do try to use Stevia, it is not 'legal' in Europe though.
 
I use Stevia when I cook......Buy stock b/c when that stuff is legal to sell as a sweetener, you'll be a trillionaire ;-)
 
Re: i heard that diet soda might trigger insulin release just by virtue of being swee

Aspartame is dangerous and has been linked to brain tumors. I found this on pubmed:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...ez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

basically it says that aspartame (and sweet tastes) did not have any effect on blood glucose levels, or hypothalamic signaling.
That would have been my guess as well. And I would trust a scientific expirment published in a peer reviewed journal over just about anything else.
 
Functional magnetic resonance imaging of human hypothalamic responses to sweet taste and calories.Smeets PA, de Graaf C, Stafleu A, van Osch MJ, van der Grond J.
Image Sciences Institute, University Medical Center Utrecht, Utrecht, The Netherlands. [email protected]

BACKGROUND: Evidence exists that beverages do not trigger appropriate anticipatory physiologic responses, such as cephalic phase insulin release. Therefore, it is of interest to elucidate the food properties necessary for triggering adaptive responses. Previously, we found a prolonged dose-dependent decrease in the hypothalamic functional magnetic resonance imaging signal after ingestion of a glucose solution.

OBJECTIVES: The aims of the present study were to measure the effects of sweet taste and energy content on the hypothalamic response to glucose ingestion and to measure the concomitant changes in blood glucose and insulin concentrations.


DESIGN: Five healthy, normal-weight men participated in a randomized crossover design trial. The subjects were scanned 4 times for 37 min on separate days with functional magnetic resonance imaging. After 7 min, they ingested 1 of the following 4 stimuli (300 mL of each): water (control), a glucose solution, an aspartame (sweet taste) solution, or a maltodextrin (nonsweet carbohydrate) solution.

RESULTS: Glucose ingestion resulted in a prolonged and significant signal decrease in the upper hypothalamus (P < 0.05). Water, aspartame, and maltodextrin had no such effect. Glucose and maltodextrin ingestions resulted in similar increases in blood glucose and insulin concentrations. However, only glucose triggered an early rise in insulin concentrations. Aspartame did not trigger any insulin response.

CONCLUSIONS: Our findings suggest that both sweet taste and energy content are required for a hypothalamic response. The combination of sweet taste and energy content could be crucial in triggering adaptive responses to sweetened beverages.

Thanks for that.


Splenda has both aspartame and maltodextrin in it though.
 
For what it is worth - splenda (specifically) when combined with caffiene will give me a rise in blood glucose.

If you're really curious get yourself a meter and test your glucose level.

(As a side note, if you're using AS you should be testing your BG anyway).
 
velvett said:
For what it is worth - splenda (specifically) when combined with caffiene will give me a rise in blood glucose.

If you're really curious get yourself a meter and test your glucose level.

(As a side note, if you're using AS you should be testing your BG anyway).

Wow, this is really interesting. I think it might be time to just do the real black coffee again..
 
Re: i heard that diet soda might trigger insulin release just by virtue of being swee

thats all BS....all artificial sweetener studies which state harm are mostly funded by big sugar companies that are taking the hit...

oh and eating/drinking sugars and HFCS is not bad for you right??? hehe
 
I don't think sweetness means insulin release, and the argument can be expressed as follows:

Consider the sugars fructose, sucrose, glucose. Their GI and insulin response varies significantly, with fructose being very low, glucose very high, and sucrose in the middle.

YET, in terms of sweetness, fructose is much sweeter than glucose, and sucrose is in between.

Fructose has a very low insulin response - lower than any carbohydrate not shielded by fibre - and yet its the sweetest.

Hence, I'm doubting there is a link between sweet taste and insulin.

Further, from personal experience I have lost weight and consume a lot of diet coke. Too much I think and I'm trying to remove the addiction as I don't doubt its plausible that there may be other dangers, but I'm doubting weight gain is one
 
If diet soda triggers an insulin release, the prescribed PWO shake should be now:
- BCAA, whey, waxy maize AND DIET COKE.

And the more diet coke PWO the better apparently under this logic
 
Sim882 said:
If diet soda triggers an insulin release, the prescribed PWO shake should be now:
- BCAA, whey, waxy maize AND DIET COKE.

And the more diet coke PWO the better apparently under this logic


lol no need to be a smart-ass, even an insulin response a fraction of that of regular coke would still be shitty. But i guess the research shows that is bs
 
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