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heatherrae
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Who do I think lies more? Gee, I would have to say it is equal. I don't know if one gender lies more than another.
What is your opinion?
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how to brake the ice with this girl i know?
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bigtasty25
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Okay...glad to see you two are getting along finally...NOW go find a room, "it's saturday night" (saturday night theme)! LOL.
Thanks for your comments heather..honestly? I think part of the reason i havent spoken to her as well is because im really trying to work on my character and helping myself to become a better guy in general (in terms of dating)...i bought this huge system for dating advertised in Flex magazine...if you guys have the most recent issue, it takes up a whole page, pretty girl at the top. im going to return it and get my money back eventually though since he has a 1 year guarentee in there *shh*. It's 11 cd's...and works on...1)"secrets of supreme confidence: how to be bulletproof 'ten feet tall and bullet proof' in every area of your life" 2)how to quickly and easily build magnetically attractive self image 3)secrets of non manipulative persuasion and influences 4) the awsome power of setting and controlling "frames" 5)how women really think and how to understand them 6) secrets of automatic attraction systems-How to get desirable women to approach you 7)what to do and say once shes approached you 8)how to make your "first meeting" with her a roaring success 9)effortlessly 'closing the deal' in a way that makes her (and you) feel great 10)deciding and choosing the type of relationship you want to have with her 11)How to make her feel "It", Fall Deliriously in Love with you and Stay Devoted for Life"
I listened to the first cd which is a "fast start" cd that gives an overview of what the above Cd's are used for, and why use them...so far i love this system, I honestly feel Im becoming happier and more confident already, and I feel when im done vigorously studying these cd's as well as the written transcript and taking some personal notes...im going to be totally different (as long as i put into practice what's preached on the cd's). It seems to be strong stuff...I dont want this kinda stuff getting in the wrong hands of a guy that is just going to use it to get laid, while not giving a shit about the girls feelings...so once you 2 read this im gunna edit this and delete everything i just said. Anywhoo I just want to do things write...im already a confident guy to an extent, im happy in general, but i just want to make sure I do everything perfectly...so give me a week and i shall decide if i wanna date her or not after our initial first date....=x
Thanks for the help guys..and devlin's info sounds great...Im almost positive thats what will come outta my mouth when I ask her out, thanks bro.
Thanks for your comments heather..honestly? I think part of the reason i havent spoken to her as well is because im really trying to work on my character and helping myself to become a better guy in general (in terms of dating)...i bought this huge system for dating advertised in Flex magazine...if you guys have the most recent issue, it takes up a whole page, pretty girl at the top. im going to return it and get my money back eventually though since he has a 1 year guarentee in there *shh*. It's 11 cd's...and works on...1)"secrets of supreme confidence: how to be bulletproof 'ten feet tall and bullet proof' in every area of your life" 2)how to quickly and easily build magnetically attractive self image 3)secrets of non manipulative persuasion and influences 4) the awsome power of setting and controlling "frames" 5)how women really think and how to understand them 6) secrets of automatic attraction systems-How to get desirable women to approach you 7)what to do and say once shes approached you 8)how to make your "first meeting" with her a roaring success 9)effortlessly 'closing the deal' in a way that makes her (and you) feel great 10)deciding and choosing the type of relationship you want to have with her 11)How to make her feel "It", Fall Deliriously in Love with you and Stay Devoted for Life"
I listened to the first cd which is a "fast start" cd that gives an overview of what the above Cd's are used for, and why use them...so far i love this system, I honestly feel Im becoming happier and more confident already, and I feel when im done vigorously studying these cd's as well as the written transcript and taking some personal notes...im going to be totally different (as long as i put into practice what's preached on the cd's). It seems to be strong stuff...I dont want this kinda stuff getting in the wrong hands of a guy that is just going to use it to get laid, while not giving a shit about the girls feelings...so once you 2 read this im gunna edit this and delete everything i just said. Anywhoo I just want to do things write...im already a confident guy to an extent, im happy in general, but i just want to make sure I do everything perfectly...so give me a week and i shall decide if i wanna date her or not after our initial first date....=x
Thanks for the help guys..and devlin's info sounds great...Im almost positive thats what will come outta my mouth when I ask her out, thanks bro.
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heatherrae
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Well, good luck on getting the girl of your dreams. I hope she proves herself to deserve you. =-)
GoldenDelicious
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my opinion is that you squirmed out of answering the question, so im gonna ask you another oneHeatherRae said:
one of my mates (truthfully i dont like him that much, hes a pansy) broke up with his long time girl about...half a year ago. meanwhile, hes been seeing some spanish chick who is waaaaaaay better than the first girl, but he still pines over her. last time we went out together, the spanish one freaked out that he was wearing some shirt that his first ex bought him, and wanted him to leave the club to go and change. he didnt want to, becuse he thought it was a nice shirt. overall they both went sour and it ruined the night. now on one hand, i see her point of view, and i also see where hes coming from. which of them do you think is right?
nice pics in your gallery by the way. did you used to be a model?
in that scenario, it seems to me to be awfully immature and insecure of the new g/f to go that crazy over him wearing a shirt bought for him by the ex. That's like high school shit right there. There may be a deeper issue between them that goes beyond just a "shirt". She may be aware that he is still pining for the ex and therefore she's pissed about THAT. They need to work out their bigger issue and not act like children and ruin an evening over a SHIRTGoldenDelicious said:my opinion is that you squirmed out of answering the question, so im gonna ask you another one
one of my mates (truthfully i dont like him that much, hes a pansy) broke up with his long time girl about...half a year ago. meanwhile, hes been seeing some spanish chick who is waaaaaaay better than the first girl, but he still pines over her. last time we went out together, the spanish one freaked out that he was wearing some shirt that his first ex bought him, and wanted him to leave the club to go and change. he didnt want to, becuse he thought it was a nice shirt. overall they both went sour and it ruined the night. now on one hand, i see her point of view, and i also see where hes coming from. which of them do you think is right?
nice pics in your gallery by the way. did you used to be a model?
GoldenDelicious
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smurfy youre so smart, i cant even talk to you now!Smurfy said:
(i am crying over here
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bigtasty25
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yeah my girl smurfy has it on the buttom right there id say...i know her pretty well (not personally), but ive known her for a long time and she knows quite a bit about dating, shes a tough bitch, astute and intense but can be very kind at times..lol...she has it though...the girl seems pretty immature to complain about how he looks..unless the shirt is totally trashy looking, then i can understand. If you're attracted to the girl and her personality n whatknot, who cares if she dresses a little "comfortable" on occasion in public, same goes for the guy in THIS situation.
But anywhoo thanks again heath...i like this girl...she's quite perceptive (you)...i honestly think golden and heather might make interesting adventure partners, though long term, its like a gemini and pisces/torus...too much arguing will result LOL, although both of you guys seem to posess unique/complex personalities , I'd love to watch you two in a live argument over a box of popcorn sometime, and keep chart of who's winning ..lmao(kinda like on the TV show "House" where house keeps track of his wins with his patients LOl)....im a gemini myself but heath's too old for me prob ...i need girls in the 20-27 range (for a long term thing)..although you're what, 28ish? thats just a guess from how u look in your avatar=0...prob perfect for golden's age...my guess is he's 30-33ish (just based on how he talks).
Im pretty perceptive when it comes to knowing when im getting attraction signals/signs from girls as i get them daily at the gym. I just get lost up in my pride, and workout focus, and to a middle extent, how to make as good an impression as possible without saying the wrong thing. After listening through the first 4 CD's...im pretty aware now on how to be super confident, how to attract girls around me, how to make a quick first impression and gain a little quick insight into that girl's world (this is during a workout, rest periods dont last long, short chat at first is fine im sure), as well as how to talk to her without making her test me much..in other words..without having to make her come out of her state of emotion and question me much (at least in the beginning)...this'll prevent me from saying the wrong thing LOL...in other words id do more of the question asking, and throw in a quick comment or 2 occasionally to relate to her, and let her tell me her "map" of her "world", if that makes sense. It also helps me to pick who i want to be friends with and whom i may want to partake in asking out. This also pertains to that girl im interested in..I need to get to know more of her "map"..to see if its at all similiar to my map to see if their is any overlayering because THAT is important for long term things to workout..although chemistry helps ALOT with this as well.
My last gf was 32 actually...i love older girls for some reason..the intelligence and personality is always what gets me...i cant stand an ignorant girl...who can...cept maybe a jock LOL..she was a total sweetheart, kinda smart, but really calm, non dramatic, just a total princess. She was partially deaf in 1 ear though so i had to constantly ask her over n over things on occasion which was really annoying, and she was really slow, her personality was slow in general and mine is more upbeat and energetic (probably like alot of the guys on elite since theyre bodybuilders id assume anyhow)...im full of energy, my physical/mental/psychological stature pretty much reflect and flow syngergistally together in a more upbeat energetic frame of mind. She wasnt adventerous at all, liked to just stay home n watch tv n walk the dog with me...that feels more like friendship shit to me or stuff couples do in the beginning (not always), or stuff older folks do LOL..to me it was nice for a little while but I like going out and exploring, having a good time in new and exciting places. I would have LOVED to be friends with her after our brakeup and have her in my life in someway at least, we DID date 6 months...i basically set the conditions for her to brakeup with me (i didnt wanna brake it with her to hurt HER feelings), but i called her 2 weeks later, she never answered, so that was it. Prob better though because she may have gotten attached later on, just being friends (i didnt want that really, i just wanted friendship).
Now if it doesnt work out with this current italian/spanish lady(maybe it will, maybe it wont, nothing damn near perfect (i.e-girl) in the world is ever easy to achieve for long term happyness) but if it doesnt, I still got this south half of florida to chomp around in, honestly the age thing isnt a huge factor i just dont want a girl that is within 20 years of my ma's age LOL since the most beautiful girls in the USA live down in Florida, gotta see whats available! just my .02=0) Even this tanned hotty i cant honestly say is my age, she "looks" it, but she may be 30...you know how it is with these fitness girls, some can look 10 years younger than they actually are (with all these new anti aging wrinkle cremes n shit)..hahaha...
And one last thing...its funny how some people are..you can have an incredibly mature 19 yr old girl (my brother's gf im close with, she's one of the smartest and most talented balenced and stable girls-in every way- of girls i know) thats super mature, then have a 30some year old broad that is so clingy its ridiculous...ive had one, for a short period...that i met online..i dont know..a year or 2 ago...she'd be annoying on occasion..say...once every few days (while we dated)...and stay naggin me about something "oh dont wear those jeans, wear these nice brown pants to dinner, i dont really like those jeans" (meanwhile her friggen dad wears jeans! lmao!) so she keeps going on n on bla bla and i just cant stand it....its pretty hard to piss me off...but i just couldnt handle it so yeah i yell it her "yo emily! will you just shut up about the damn jeans already and be quiet!!?? so she gets all stunned...amazed/silent...and starts to slowly get into a crying phase that lasts for awhile...well i leave her alone..come back awhile later, maybe an hour...damn girl is so happy its almost scary...LOL...i noticed a reoccuring pattern of em doing this every few days, so i shouted at her each time, the same darn thing happened, with her becoming happy around an hour later...i think its like these darn girls r testing us guys...to see if we';ll put them in their place and be a man...take authority...
its a bit irritating but thats how some girls test guys to see if theyre really what they should be-a man. It just didnt workout between us though because she obviously had some underlying issues with guys...i prefer a more stable less dramatic girl...drama is something us guys can do without..LOL.
In a sense im quite nieve when it comes to girls...hey im 24, im sure golden knows a shitload more about girls then i do in ways (since he IS older than me), but i guess im just a little more old fashioned and simple, yet i try to be effective, when im actually in the process of "gaming"..but im definately still learning and in the 9 yrs or so i HAVE been dating, ive learned alot, and im confident on what i DO know..for sure...but yet, there's so much more to learn. Us guys on the other hand are very easy and predictable to read, take it from me! LOL
time to catch some shut eye and jump in the hay...first im going to delve into some teeny bopper "material" on my computer to "use" be4 bed...i like "College Pyjama Party series 1 of 3"..hehe >
But anywhoo thanks again heath...i like this girl...she's quite perceptive (you)...i honestly think golden and heather might make interesting adventure partners, though long term, its like a gemini and pisces/torus...too much arguing will result LOL, although both of you guys seem to posess unique/complex personalities , I'd love to watch you two in a live argument over a box of popcorn sometime, and keep chart of who's winning ..lmao(kinda like on the TV show "House" where house keeps track of his wins with his patients LOl)....im a gemini myself but heath's too old for me prob ...i need girls in the 20-27 range (for a long term thing)..although you're what, 28ish? thats just a guess from how u look in your avatar=0...prob perfect for golden's age...my guess is he's 30-33ish (just based on how he talks).
Im pretty perceptive when it comes to knowing when im getting attraction signals/signs from girls as i get them daily at the gym. I just get lost up in my pride, and workout focus, and to a middle extent, how to make as good an impression as possible without saying the wrong thing. After listening through the first 4 CD's...im pretty aware now on how to be super confident, how to attract girls around me, how to make a quick first impression and gain a little quick insight into that girl's world (this is during a workout, rest periods dont last long, short chat at first is fine im sure), as well as how to talk to her without making her test me much..in other words..without having to make her come out of her state of emotion and question me much (at least in the beginning)...this'll prevent me from saying the wrong thing LOL...in other words id do more of the question asking, and throw in a quick comment or 2 occasionally to relate to her, and let her tell me her "map" of her "world", if that makes sense. It also helps me to pick who i want to be friends with and whom i may want to partake in asking out. This also pertains to that girl im interested in..I need to get to know more of her "map"..to see if its at all similiar to my map to see if their is any overlayering because THAT is important for long term things to workout..although chemistry helps ALOT with this as well.
My last gf was 32 actually...i love older girls for some reason..the intelligence and personality is always what gets me...i cant stand an ignorant girl...who can...cept maybe a jock LOL..she was a total sweetheart, kinda smart, but really calm, non dramatic, just a total princess. She was partially deaf in 1 ear though so i had to constantly ask her over n over things on occasion which was really annoying, and she was really slow, her personality was slow in general and mine is more upbeat and energetic (probably like alot of the guys on elite since theyre bodybuilders id assume anyhow)...im full of energy, my physical/mental/psychological stature pretty much reflect and flow syngergistally together in a more upbeat energetic frame of mind. She wasnt adventerous at all, liked to just stay home n watch tv n walk the dog with me...that feels more like friendship shit to me or stuff couples do in the beginning (not always), or stuff older folks do LOL..to me it was nice for a little while but I like going out and exploring, having a good time in new and exciting places. I would have LOVED to be friends with her after our brakeup and have her in my life in someway at least, we DID date 6 months...i basically set the conditions for her to brakeup with me (i didnt wanna brake it with her to hurt HER feelings), but i called her 2 weeks later, she never answered, so that was it. Prob better though because she may have gotten attached later on, just being friends (i didnt want that really, i just wanted friendship).
Now if it doesnt work out with this current italian/spanish lady(maybe it will, maybe it wont, nothing damn near perfect (i.e-girl) in the world is ever easy to achieve for long term happyness) but if it doesnt, I still got this south half of florida to chomp around in, honestly the age thing isnt a huge factor i just dont want a girl that is within 20 years of my ma's age LOL since the most beautiful girls in the USA live down in Florida, gotta see whats available! just my .02=0) Even this tanned hotty i cant honestly say is my age, she "looks" it, but she may be 30...you know how it is with these fitness girls, some can look 10 years younger than they actually are (with all these new anti aging wrinkle cremes n shit)..hahaha...
And one last thing...its funny how some people are..you can have an incredibly mature 19 yr old girl (my brother's gf im close with, she's one of the smartest and most talented balenced and stable girls-in every way- of girls i know) thats super mature, then have a 30some year old broad that is so clingy its ridiculous...ive had one, for a short period...that i met online..i dont know..a year or 2 ago...she'd be annoying on occasion..say...once every few days (while we dated)...and stay naggin me about something "oh dont wear those jeans, wear these nice brown pants to dinner, i dont really like those jeans" (meanwhile her friggen dad wears jeans! lmao!) so she keeps going on n on bla bla and i just cant stand it....its pretty hard to piss me off...but i just couldnt handle it so yeah i yell it her "yo emily! will you just shut up about the damn jeans already and be quiet!!?? so she gets all stunned...amazed/silent...and starts to slowly get into a crying phase that lasts for awhile...well i leave her alone..come back awhile later, maybe an hour...damn girl is so happy its almost scary...LOL...i noticed a reoccuring pattern of em doing this every few days, so i shouted at her each time, the same darn thing happened, with her becoming happy around an hour later...i think its like these darn girls r testing us guys...to see if we';ll put them in their place and be a man...take authority...
its a bit irritating but thats how some girls test guys to see if theyre really what they should be-a man. It just didnt workout between us though because she obviously had some underlying issues with guys...i prefer a more stable less dramatic girl...drama is something us guys can do without..LOL.
In a sense im quite nieve when it comes to girls...hey im 24, im sure golden knows a shitload more about girls then i do in ways (since he IS older than me), but i guess im just a little more old fashioned and simple, yet i try to be effective, when im actually in the process of "gaming"..but im definately still learning and in the 9 yrs or so i HAVE been dating, ive learned alot, and im confident on what i DO know..for sure...but yet, there's so much more to learn. Us guys on the other hand are very easy and predictable to read, take it from me! LOL
time to catch some shut eye and jump in the hay...first im going to delve into some teeny bopper "material" on my computer to "use" be4 bed...i like "College Pyjama Party series 1 of 3"..hehe >
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heatherrae
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It wasn't squirming out of the question Golden, I just don't really think lying is a character flaw that is more present in either gender. That is my honest answer.
LOL...I'm 36 big tasty. I always get a little flabbergasted at being called an "older woman" because I still feel like I'm 12...lol. Then, when a guy in his early twenties asks me out, my first thought is, "What is he thinking? He's too young for me." LOL. All I can say is that the years sneak up on you quickly, and when you are 36 you will look in the mirror and think, "What happened? I still feel 20." =-)
Golden, the shirt thing sounds like she has picked up that he still has feelings for the ex and is being possessive of him. It's not the best way to handle the situation, but sometimes emotions make us do things that are far from optimal.
LOL...I'm 36 big tasty. I always get a little flabbergasted at being called an "older woman" because I still feel like I'm 12...lol. Then, when a guy in his early twenties asks me out, my first thought is, "What is he thinking? He's too young for me." LOL. All I can say is that the years sneak up on you quickly, and when you are 36 you will look in the mirror and think, "What happened? I still feel 20." =-)
Golden, the shirt thing sounds like she has picked up that he still has feelings for the ex and is being possessive of him. It's not the best way to handle the situation, but sometimes emotions make us do things that are far from optimal.
bigtasty25
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youre 36? what??? Hah...just goes to show what i said above is true...about girls that look like their in their 20s and turn out to be mid 30s such as yourself...what working out can do to extend youth & beauty 
Eh you're not "older women"...wrong way of stating it...i just figure older comparatively since this is coming from a guy turning 25 later this month..lol. But like i said be4, i thought u were 28ish, so...definately dont look old, hell..ive been told i look to be in my late 20s anyhow.
Well you have a few yrs on my last ex actually, but it's funny because you actually look younger than her, she wasnt big into working out, was thin, not toned, just not into the whole working out thing like of us on the board. What am I thinking? eh...like I said and you probably know im single, looking, but hell, I like making friends and meeting new people too, its not all just about meeting that perfect one and timing it to be accomplished in 1-2 weeks LOl...stuff like that sometimes takes years (as you know id assume). For now I just like meeting ppl, seeing what theyre about, what makes them tick...maybe having fun and doing something unique if that step permits (i dont really mean sexual, maybe...boating
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my idea of fun is somewhat different from the typical "lets go out and party and get drunk" attitude...im more diverse...say for example..couple weeks ago my and a workout buddy went in my backyard, hooked my fishing pole on to my iguana's leesh (yes, i have a 6 foot iguana and he has a leesh i can walk him with...LOL!), reeled the sucker out in the lake in my backyard, went out like 100 feet, then we'd slowly reel that sucker in lmao.
Eh you're not "older women"...wrong way of stating it...i just figure older comparatively since this is coming from a guy turning 25 later this month..lol. But like i said be4, i thought u were 28ish, so...definately dont look old, hell..ive been told i look to be in my late 20s anyhow.
Well you have a few yrs on my last ex actually, but it's funny because you actually look younger than her, she wasnt big into working out, was thin, not toned, just not into the whole working out thing like of us on the board. What am I thinking? eh...like I said and you probably know im single, looking, but hell, I like making friends and meeting new people too, its not all just about meeting that perfect one and timing it to be accomplished in 1-2 weeks LOl...stuff like that sometimes takes years (as you know id assume). For now I just like meeting ppl, seeing what theyre about, what makes them tick...maybe having fun and doing something unique if that step permits (i dont really mean sexual, maybe...boating
)my idea of fun is somewhat different from the typical "lets go out and party and get drunk" attitude...im more diverse...say for example..couple weeks ago my and a workout buddy went in my backyard, hooked my fishing pole on to my iguana's leesh (yes, i have a 6 foot iguana and he has a leesh i can walk him with...LOL!), reeled the sucker out in the lake in my backyard, went out like 100 feet, then we'd slowly reel that sucker in lmao.
bigtasty25
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HeatherRae said:All I can say is that the years sneak up on you quickly, and when you are 36 you will look in the mirror and think, "What happened? I still feel 20." =-)
I already kinda know that..it only feels like yesterday that I was 18 and outta high school...then i see all these teeny boppers at the theaters on a sat night, or at my gym here in south fla, and I feel like an old man lmao...but yet I still feel 18 (physically) like them. But it's great you feel young, thats really what counts, and as u see, i like smileys
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