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ahhh.... to be 135 lbs... u hardly have to eat anything to grow....
how much protein
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Anthrax Invasion
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Without AAS, you're not doing much good consuming more than one gram per pound. Even that's probably overkill, since LBM is a better way to measure your protein intake. If you're natural, just aim for one gram per pound, and try not to deviate from it too much.
Of course, I could make the arguement of protein being a better replacement for carbs (though more costly, as well) due to some other factors, but it's a pretty nominal point, on the whole.
Of course, I could make the arguement of protein being a better replacement for carbs (though more costly, as well) due to some other factors, but it's a pretty nominal point, on the whole.
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That didn't feel at all coherent, but okay...
The ANPB diet by Mr. X, huh? How's that working? I've always wanted to give it a run.
The ANPB diet by Mr. X, huh? How's that working? I've always wanted to give it a run.
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Here's the problem I see, alluding to anthrax invasion's comment . . . if you need a calorie surplus to gain weight, but only stick to 1 g. protein per pound of bodyweight (and especially if you do 1 g./pound of LEAN body weight), then you'd have to eat a ton of carbs & fat to make it up b/c protein under that regimen would total maybe 20% of your daily macro. So, you've got to pound down fats & carbs . . . and this makes you more susceptible to gaining fat in my experience (never seen somebody get fat off eating too much protein. lol).
So, I conclude you need more protein if for no other reason than the cals. I could be wrong though. LoL
So, I conclude you need more protein if for no other reason than the cals. I could be wrong though. LoL
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Calories are calories in terms of weight gain. You will not gain extra mass from carbs and fats. If you eat 1,000 calories over maintenance in protein, or 1,000 in carbs, the outcome will be the same. Carbs are also much cheaper and easier to down than proteins. Fats are quick, dense sources (i.e., extra virgin olive oil), but don't fill most people's stomachs.
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This is a pretty heavily debated area, I think. And I don't pretend to know much about it. AI is saying "all calories are the same, it's the overall amount that counts." But I think diff't calories are more easily stored as fat, maybe. Or maybe it has to do w/ digestion rates or something. But it seems that 300 calories from a Coke are diff't somehow than 300 calories of lean chicken . . . .so it's more than just calories-in vs. calories-out. If I'm right, then it'd be better to get more cals from protein even if you wind up "wasting" some of it b/c at least you wouldn't be as likely to gain fat from the excess cals.
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Anthrax Invasion said:
I couldn't agree less. Carbs are eaiser to digest than protein, and are efficiently used to be converted into glucose for immediate energy use or storage in the liver. That's why are workout drinks are high carbs and not protien. Eating an extra 250 grams of protein on top of the required protein (overmaintainence) will give you a big bloated belly and an intestine full of shit - for about 3 months i ate 420g a day of protein and I always felt like I was full up to my neck all day! Carbs and fats are the things that should be manipulated, whereas the protein should have relatively modest changes as weight is gained - this changes when you diet obviously. Plenty of guys I know (and me included) can eat a large carbs and protein meal, but WONT be feeling full up unless they get in a good dose of fat.
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That's odd, 'cause I get full from carbs and proteins. Fats don't tend to fill me up.
Carbs also bloat me. Protein doesn't.
Carbs also bloat me. Protein doesn't.
The peanut butter diet is very hard ive only been on it for almost 2 weeks now and i never feel full and i kinda had to stop it, but only for a few days because its just impossible boiling and eating 24 egg whites a day. I feel like im gona throw up all the time from them and my dog got into the trash and ate all the egg yolk i threw away and that was not good (looked like someone egged our house). Im gona order me some protein and stick to it as good as possible tell then but just not like it says. Thats also how i feel anthrax invasion fats dont feel me up if they did i would be fine right now, but im starving. Ive been on several other diets and i dont think any are this hard, for one whole month i ate 300 calories a day except on sunday and lost about 50lbs. and i think this is harder(and no im not exaggerating). I think ive lost a few lbs. so far looks like i have, but i just need to follow it more strictly thats why im waiting for the protein.
