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new_start

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i've started working out now and i always end up sweating but i want to know what i can use to work out whether i've had an effective workout-

i just want to improve my general fitness and i've bought a dancemat which tells you how many calories burned. however does anyone know how it actually works this out and also whether it's a good indicator as to if i've had a good workout?

are there any other things i could look out or workout myself when using the dancemat?
 
(sorry about the forum - not sure how to move it to the right place, if you can please do.)

of course, the results of your workout are the best indication of doing a good workout but how about when you're actually doing the exercise? i refer to things like dancemat, treadmill, endurance machines etc
 
Honestly... I put out 200% effort whenever I'm doing anything... do your best and you should expect the best results from that.

High intensity workouts will make major changes to one's body.

You "half-ass" (not full effort) a workout... you get half-ass results.

That's the best I can explain it.... be consistant and deligent in your efforts and you WILL see results... take before photos... and take some more photos 1 month down the road, ect.
 
:lmao: GREAT bunny DDR gif in that thread :D

Ok... so, uhhh... just dance your ass off I guess :)

Once you work up your endurance to where you start going so fast you might as well be jumping in place then it may be time to start some sprint running routines :coffee:


Good Luck!
 
Never tried one of these things myself, I might though, but if you're looking at something to see how many calories you burn during your workout:

http://www.impactsports.com/

Keep in mind that treadmills only count the number of revolutions the machine makes and can sometimes give an inaccurate reading if you're leaning on the handles.
 
thanks for the advice guys, obviously i understand that using something like DDR isn't a substitute for a really good workout at the gym or wherever but i thought i would be able to recommend it to my mom as she can use the dancemat thing at home. i just wanted to find out if theres a way i can workout if shes burned enough calories or whatever during her workout. having said that, is 'burning calories' an efficient thing to use as a guide on your workout?
 
new_start said:
i just wanted to find out if theres a way i can workout if shes burned enough calories or whatever during her workout. having said that, is 'burning calories' an efficient thing to use as a guide on your workout?
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I don't understand the first sentence. Sorry :(

Burning cals is absolutely a good way to track your progress, at the very basic level, cals in < cals out (burned) = weightloss...

Log foods into www.fitday.com to get an accurate read on what you/her are actually consuming. Keep in mind your BMR is also important ...

i.e. BMR - For instance ... your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) is the number of calories you'd burn if you stayed in bed all day :) (sorry if you already knew what )

:)

If your BMR + Exercise exceeds cals consumed = weight loss (unless of course you are not eating enough & starving yourself, then you can gain weight & store FAT... bad bad bad)
 
what i mean is that in the DDR game thing it tells you how many calories youve used. i dont think the number is accurate because obviously, like u say, it depends on bmr etc - i was wondering how the game might work out the figure - maybe its not accurate but close?
 
alex2678 said:
Never tried one of these things myself, I might though, but if you're looking at something to see how many calories you burn during your workout:

http://www.impactsports.com/

Keep in mind that treadmills only count the number of revolutions the machine makes and can sometimes give an inaccurate reading if you're leaning on the handles.
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Doh~ i thought you were going to get a dance mat & try it out!! Whoops!

Alex that's kinda cool ... I want one! the glove thingy :)

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New_start ...

Does it have an option where you generically enter your height , weight, sex etc?

No I would not say those cals are accurate ... from experience with all the cardio equipment at the gyms, even with my HR monitor on, the #'s never 'match up' to what is shows on my watch compared to the display.

I would follow alex's suggestion or spend some $$ on a decent HR monitor to better track progress (i.e. cals burned)
 
*Bunny* said:
Do it & give me some feedback .. please :)
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Will do. Haven't started cutting yet, but I've always wanted to try this. Last time I used the treadmill, I went up to the max speed and was barely sweating and could carry on a normal conversation so I was concerned that I wasn't burning the number of calories the machine said I was. (I need to educate myself more on aerobics rather than just weight training.)

New Start: Listen to Bunny's advice. Calories burned are completely important if you're trying to lose weight. What's your diet and stats like? You're not starving yourself are you?
 
starting myself, no way. i'm not actually concerned about my weight, more about endurance and stamina.

in my experience, the dancemat does make my heartrate go up so its not a total waste of time as i used to think.

like i said before how do these programs work out calories used?
 
*Bunny* said:
Doh~ i thought you were going to get a dance mat & try it out!! Whoops!

Alex that's kinda cool ... I want one! the glove thingy :)
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LOL. I"ll get one of those dancemats and open the blinds in my house so everyone can see me when they walk by. (How :rainbow: would that be? :FRlol: )
I can always bring it to the gym too. :)
 
Well at least the dancemat would be about the most exciting cardio workout inside your home..

If you are constantly worried about your endurance (if thats the reason you don't want to go to the gym) then please realize that everybody starts somewhere. You have to build up the endurance (walk/jog) to eventually (walk/run) to (jog/run -HIIT)

HIIT is just about one of the best things you can do for building endurance, IMO.

As far as burning calories..well nothing is really accurate in regards with that. Depends on so many factors its nearly impossible to calculate, however, just go for a solid 30-45 minutes and keep your heart rate going and keep the sweat pouring.
 
Question for the HIIT experts:

For days I do not do HIIT sprints (where I run balls out til I achieve a HR of 180+, then walk until my HR hits 130 bpm)....

Would HIIT cycling be acceptable? When cycling I would sprint to a HR of 170+, then let it subside to 120-130bpm, then sprint again.

I do this for about 45 min. When running, I only go for about 30 min.


Also, anybody know how to correlate age, HR, time, and calories burned?
 
As far as burning calories..well nothing is really accurate in regards with that. Depends on so many factors its nearly impossible to calculate
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how do machines calculate this or dancemat games?
 
reading & thoughts for you ...

"They offer no indication of actual calories burned. The only
way to determine that is by using an (expensive!) machine
that analyzes inhaled and exhaled gasses. Such machines
usually exist only in clinical settings."

http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/heart/9909/07/cardiomachine.accuracy/index.html

http://www.polarusa.com/healthclubs/Own/own_zone2.asp

some ... "uses scientific data from ACSM! These numbers were calculated using Metabolic Values. The Classification of Energy Costs of Human Physical Activities Compendium classifies physical activities by energy expenditure. The results have been compiled from an extensive number of respected pieces of research, which have been carried out."


for better 'accuracy' ... "Units that take into consideration your weight will be fairly accurate in estimating caloric expenditure. It is important that you enter your accurate weight when setting the program on the machine. It is also important to perform the exercise correctly in order to fit into the equations used to predict calories burned. For example, on a treadmill that means not holding on the handrails. ON an elliptical trainer it means only using the rails for balance, not to hold your body weight."


"The displayed calorie count is probably not complete fiction.
I ass-u-me that it is based on statistical data, either provided
by academia or by the manufacturer, relying on parameters
of the machine (e.g. incline and speed) as well as personal
parameters (e.g. weight). For example, Polar claims to do
its own studies in order to build statistical models for the
calorie counts displayed by Polar HRMs."

http://sparkpeople.com/resource/fitness_articles.asp?id=536
 
Great links Bunny!!! I think the most inaccurate calorie counter of all the machines has to be the Tony Little Gazzelle Freestyle machine. I just saw one study showing that it burns around 200 calories an hour no matter what angle you lean into the machine. There's no resistance at all.
 
alex2678 said:
Great links Bunny!!! I think the most inaccurate calorie counter of all the machines has to be the Tony Little Gazzelle Freestyle machine. I just saw one study showing that it burns around 200 calories an hour no matter what angle you lean into the machine. There's no resistance at all.
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You and your dancemat & the Gazzelle ... workout party at your place!

Sarge can work the door!

I'm video taping your infomercial


:D
 
alex2678 said:
:FRlol: I saw one of those Gazzelle's at the store and had to try it out. That damn Tony Little makes it look like so much fun. Most embarassing 30 seconds of my life.:)

How's this for a lazy workout.:

http://www.asseenontv.com/prod-pages/cardio_cruiser.html?gid=

I'm trying it out next time I'm at Sports Authority. :)
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:FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol:
:FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol:

That is classic ... I'm lmfao right now .. thanks for the ab workout ... everyone is like "mandi wtf are you laughing at ... " as I stare at my computer screen ... :rolleyes:
 
great links bunny, thx!

are there any alternatives to using calorie counter that you guys have come across? i was thinking that calorie counters are more appropriate for people who want to lose weight - is that true?
 
new_start said:
great links bunny, thx!

are there any alternatives to using calorie counter that you guys have come across? i was thinking that calorie counters are more appropriate for people who want to lose weight - is that true?
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No problem girl/guy? Sorry I HATE to assume & it doesn't specifiy your gender :rose:

FYI we are not making fun, just of each other :)

I'm not sure I understand your question ... calorie counter such as a watch/hr monitor? or like food counter such as fitday?
 
Calorie counters/heart rate monitors are good measures even if you're not trying to lose weight. If you're trying to increase your stamina/endurance there's probably a thousand different variations of workout programs to follow. Here's one sample:

1. Begin with 3 x 30 minute sessions per week at a heart rate of 60% of maximal heart rate. (MHR = 220 - age).

2. After two weeks of this, increase the workout to 40 minutes in length.

3. After another two weeks, increase the workout length to 45 minutes.

4. After two weeks of this workout, add one more session to a total of four at 40 minutes per session.

5. Now that a stable base has been established we can start increasing the intensity. Two weeks after step four, during one session keep your heart rate at 70% of max.

6. The week after this do two at 60% of MHR and two at 70% of MHR.

7. Two weeks after this change the workouts back to 45 minutes each with 2 at 60% and two at 70%.

8. After two weeks of this give yourself a break. Do two sessions this week at 45 minutes at 65% MHR.

9. For the next week, do two 45 minutes workouts at 60%, one at 75%, and one 30 minute workout at 80%.

10. Increase intensity and duration at desired amounts to achieve your goals.
 
wow very good description there alex, thanks.

i'll probly look into how these programs work out calories used - programs like heart rate monitors etc.

if anyone finds out please post here. thanks and g'night!
 
vin01 said:
Question for the HIIT experts:

For days I do not do HIIT sprints (where I run balls out til I achieve a HR of 180+, then walk until my HR hits 130 bpm)....

Would HIIT cycling be acceptable? When cycling I would sprint to a HR of 170+, then let it subside to 120-130bpm, then sprint again.

I do this for about 45 min. When running, I only go for about 30 min.


Also, anybody know how to correlate age, HR, time, and calories burned?
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You could do HIIT cycling, but in my opinion its not as effective as an elliptical or treadmill due to the fact you are only moving your legs on the cycle. When on the treadmill, elliptical, etc you are using both of your largest muscle group (legs and back) thus being more efficient.

If the cycle works for you then use the cycle, but there are surely BETTER HIIT methods, in my opinion.

As for the second question I don't think there really is an answer to that...all I know is the formula to find your ideal max heart rate. (220-age)
 
poysyn said:
You could do HIIT cycling, but in my opinion its not as effective as an elliptical or treadmill due to the fact you are only moving your legs on the cycle. When on the treadmill, elliptical, etc you are using both of your largest muscle group (legs and back) thus being more efficient.

If the cycle works for you then use the cycle, but there are surely BETTER HIIT methods, in my opinion.

As for the second question I don't think there really is an answer to that...all I know is the formula to find your ideal max heart rate. (220-age)
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I only cycle because I like to be outside, instead of inside on a treadmill, and I HATE to run.

Could one argue that even though cycling does not use upper body, getting the HR into a certain zone is the most important part?

Bunny- you haven't used that Own Zone by Polar have you? Sounds interesting.
 
vin01 said:
Bunny- you haven't used that Own Zone by Polar have you? Sounds interesting.
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Yes that option is on my HRM. My (telemetry) strap though, VERY worn out :)

It helps reduce error, but even those HR monitors cannot account for supp use etc... ya know?

Just to be used to gauge progress ... as with any other tracking method
 
vin01 said:
For all you Gazelle haters...

I must admit I think it is the most fun form of exercise out there. Maybe not effective, but its fun.
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:garza: rock on

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poysyn said:
You could do HIIT cycling, but in my opinion its not as effective as an elliptical or treadmill due to the fact you are only moving your legs on the cycle. When on the treadmill, elliptical, etc you are using both of your largest muscle group (legs and back) thus being more efficient.

If the cycle works for you then use the cycle, but there are surely BETTER HIIT methods, in my opinion.

As for the second question I don't think there really is an answer to that...all I know is the formula to find your ideal max heart rate. (220-age)
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Unless you would consider yourself an 'athlete' then you would use 210- age/2.

Also, there are many heart rate issues that just dont pan out... check the thread i just posted on Heartrate Shmartrate...
 
vin01 said:
I only cycle because I like to be outside, instead of inside on a treadmill, and I HATE to run.

Could one argue that even though cycling does not use upper body, getting the HR into a certain zone is the most important part?

Bunny- you haven't used that Own Zone by Polar have you? Sounds interesting.
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Supra Maximal Sprints on flats, or even better yet: do 'in the saddle' Hill Repeats for either Peak HR/Recovery HR or for TimeUp=TimeDown.

Short answer: yes, bike works GREAT!
 
OMG

LOL @
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anyway, calorie counters on machines are sketchy at best, the only ones you could "MILDLY" trust are those of threadmills, simply because they have been out for ages and have had the time to tweak their formulas.

It varies on a ton of factors and each person is different, hell, each person is different EACH day.

What do I calculate? 45 mins of balls-to-the-wall cardio (75-80% MHR), will burn, in my case, with my calculations some 400-500 cals. Maybe more, but I prefer to go below that over. The machines always say 700-800 cals, but I don't buy it.
 
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