How Do Homosexuals Feel About Homophobes?

[Longhorn85]

major pedophile organizations include NAMBLA (The North American Man-Boy Love Association) and PAN (Pedophile Alert Network) in the Netherlands.

You suggested that there were many heterosexual pedophile groups and that is what I asked you to name. Are you saying NAMBLA is hetero? At any rate, they are all disgusting.

 

[john937]

So John, where you guys having sex with eachother or talking/singing about gay issues during your performance?

I havee this perfect ideal that "someday" everyone would be equal and there would be no need to segragate 'communities' to be with like-kind.

Actually I never had sex with a single other chorus member. They were my "sisters".
We had parties, camped it up, had great social fun, but almost no sex occurred amoung the 120 guys.
That's what the baths were for.

Look at the earth. If God created the earth, then the one thing we can say about God is he likes diversity.
There are over 100 different species of tree frogs.
Why 100+ ? Wouldn't 6 or 7 cover the map?
I like a world where the gays can have a community, and the hispanics can have a culture different from the black community, different from the white community, different from the photographers club, the garden club, the NASCAR club, the golfers, the scuba divers....
Everybody's got different interests and socializes with others of their kind.
But when gays do it, it's called "flaunting".

 

[dballer]

You suggested that there were many heterosexual pedophile groups and that is what I asked you to name. Are you saying NAMBLA is hetero? At any rate, they are all disgusting.

Bro.. there are not any in the US.. I looked before I said that. and the first one he mentioned IS active in the US. George does not want us to talk about that group anymore. I think someone cried about it earlier.

 

[HansNZ]

Just another random thing but... does anyone here actually work? They are on the board... um... for quite a while...

I log on and off. I am usually not on for 5 hours straight, hehe.

 

[john937]

You suggested that there were many heterosexual pedophile groups and that is what I asked you to name. Are you saying NAMBLA is hetero? At any rate, they are all disgusting.

Heterosexuals don't much need such groups, they've already achieved most of their goals.
Quite a number of self respecting states/countries have a lot in common with Nambla's goals.
The age of heterosexual consentual sex is
age 12 - Chile, Columbia, Argentina, Mexico, Netherlands, Panama, Phillipines
age 13 - Korea, Spain, Syria
age 14 - Iowa, Missouri, South Carolina

 

[GinNJuice]

Actually I never had sex with a single other chorus member. They were my "sisters".
We had parties, camped it up, had great social fun, but almost no sex occurred amoung the 120 guys.
That's what the baths were for.

So, if you didn't have sex with eachother while on stage, during a performance, and you didn't sing about gay issues, then why call yourselves the "San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus". Why not just San Francisco Men's Chorus?


I mean, is it appropriate to put "Gay" in the title, even though you weren't having sex with gays on the stage, or singing about gay issues?

Look at the earth. If God created the earth, then the one thing we can say about God is he likes diversity.
There are over 100 different species of tree frogs.
Why 100+ ? Wouldn't 6 or 7 cover the map?
I like a world where the gays can have a community, and the hispanics can have a culture different from the black community, different from the white community, different from the photographers club, the garden club, the NASCAR club, the golfers, the scuba divers....
Everybody's got different interests and socializes with others of their kind.
But when gays do it, it's called "flaunting".

Well, I'm agnostic (see signature), but to me a frog is a frog... why differentiate between 100+ of the darn things?

 

[john937]

So, if you didn't have sex with eachother while on stage, during a performance, and you didn't sing about gay issues, then why call yourselves the "San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus". Why not just San Francisco Men's Chorus?


I mean, is it appropriate to put "Gay" in the title, even though you weren't having sex with gays on the stage, or singing about gay issues?

AGAIN: You're missing the point that it's all about the CULTURE.
We called ourselves that because That's Who We Were!
Everybody in the chorus was gay, and our audience was gay, and we served the gay community.
So why NOT put gay in the title?
Does this look like a sex group?
We're singing Shubert, Wager, Brahms, and Mozart for Chris' sake!

BTW - yes I'm in there, the only pic I've posted on EF.
I'm right of center, 3rd row from the top.
The fuzzy one.

 

[HansNZ]

So, if you didn't have sex with eachother while on stage, during a performance, and you didn't sing about gay issues, then why call yourselves the "San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus". Why not just San Francisco Men's Chorus?


I mean, is it appropriate to put "Gay" in the title, even though you weren't having sex with gays on the stage, or singing about gay issues?

Well probably because it was a social organistion for people to mix with their own type. This serves several functions such as allowing people to be openly gay without having to put up with the general daily discrimination of their normal lives.

It is also because straight people meet eachother everywhere but gays often have to deliberately meet up with eachother in order to meet their own sort - hence the "gay men's" chorus.

In my own city, unless you deliberately go out to find other gays and unless you deliberatly form social groups for gay people then your chances of meeting other gays are limited. I must add that straights also participate in these groups. My rugby teams/rowing teams are predominantly gay but with straight participants too. They are welcome.

Well, I'm agnostic (see signature), but to me a frog is a frog... why differentiate between 100+ of the darn things?

Well because there is diversity among things of the same type. Chinese are all Chinese, but they also have different qualities as individuals too.

 

[GinNJuice]

AGAIN: You're missing the point that it's all about the CULTURE.
We called ourselves that because That's Who We Were!
Everybody in the chorus was gay, and our audience was gay, and we served the gay community.
So why NOT put gay in the title?
Does this look like a sex group?
We're singing Shubert, Wager, Brahms, and Mozart for Chris' sake!

Ok, so in a different situation, would it be "OK" or more importantly APPROPRIATE for a group of male chorus singers to call themselves the "Omaha Straight Men's Choir"??????? Especially, if they only admitted 'straight men' into the choir and only sung to straight audiences?

 

[Longhorn85]

i always took "sexual orientation" to be referring to the sex (i.e. male or female) to which one was oriented. somehow you're trying to say that pedophilia is ones sexual orientation???? huh?

Many consider sex to mean intercourse between a man and a woman, but that is not always the case is it?

If someone is oriented sexually towards children, I would say that sexual orientation means something other that what you assumed.