How Do Homosexuals Feel About Homophobes?

[GinNJuice]

NO! really?

MB, FYI, I have great repect for you and your agenda(s). I just like to argue the logic and reason of your opinions..... not that I disagree them, but just for argument sake (fun).

 

[musclebrains]

Well, I question the ability of his attorney (as I stated before).

The LL would somehow have to prove that sodomy took place. Did the LL have pictures, eye witnesses? I doubt it, but correct me if I'm wrong. If there was proof of the sodomy, was the offender indited? If not, why?

No, he wasn't indicted, because the goal was just to get the queer off the premises.

So, let's say it went to court, my client took an oath. What's he supposed to say? No, I'm not gay? No, I didn't commit sodomy on the premises? Is he supposed to file a lawsuit in which he challenges -- under what law? -- the landlord's right to establish heterosexuality as a community standard? These same endless battles are why we ended up with federal protections for other minorities and women.

There was at the time of my client's case no privacy protection. Recall that the the case in which the Supreme Court upheld Ga's sodomy law -- since overturned-- involved the police actually entering Hardwick's home to catch him "in the act."

 

[musclebrains]

MB, FYI, I have great repect for you and your agenda(s). I just like to argue the logic and reason of your opinions..... not that I disagree them, but just for argument sake (fun).

I knew what you were doing, Mr. Gin. I've been posting between clients today so I haven't been my most cohesive.

 

[john937]

Hmmm. John, you weren't on that boat that afternoon the Advocate, the Gay Men's Chorus and The Experience were all conceived, were you? We may have friends in common.

Could be. I went to "The Experience", and was there the first night the chorus rehearsed and 7 years thereafter and went with them on national tour, but wasn't part of the organizers that thought of it.
The central idea that came out during that time was "Never accept being treated like anything less than a 1st class citizen".
What I hear here being advocated sounds very "appologist" for my tastes.

 

[GinNJuice]

MB, FYI, I have great repect for you and your agenda(s). I just like to argue the logic and reason of your opinions..... not that I disagree them, but just for argument sake (fun).

Post on my Abortion thread.... that should be fun too.

..... and I'm gonna have some fun with John697

 

[musclebrains]

Could be. I went to "The Experience", and was there the first night the chorus rehearsed and 7 years thereafter and went with them on national tour, but wasn't part of the organizers that thought of it.
The central idea that came out during that time was "Never accept being treated like anything less than a 1st class citizen".
What I hear here being advocated sounds very "appologist" for my tastes.

Ditto to your last statement. Welcome to 2002.

Yeah, we probly know a few people in common.

 

[GinNJuice]

Because that's what we were.
We lived in San Francisco, were gay men forming a chorus.
Our target audience was the San Francisco Gay Community, not making legal arguments.

So John, where you guys having sex with eachother or talking/singing about gay issues during your performance?

One of the basic points I think has been missing from the whole discussion so far,
is that I think you believe this is all about sex.
It is not. Gays have a community.
Just like the blacks and hispanics have a community, with shared values and culture.
When gay people started getting "uppity" was when the police were arresting us for peacable assembly,
going to bars, being together in a social context.

Granted..... you are right about my belief that it is all about sex...... I have this perfect ideal that "someday" everyone would be equal and there would be no need to segragate 'communities' to be with like-kind. In my perfect world, everyone would live by the same rules and be treated the same (or by the merits of thier actions). I think it would be nice if blacks, whites, hispanics, gays, straights could all go the the same bars and be in a 'social context' together without all the hatered.

Can't we all just get along?

 

[Blue Sky]

NO! really?

F... Forgive me for pointing out what you already knew...

 

[Longhorn85]

ttlpkg, the black version of Ronald Reagan.

I'll take that as a compliment.

 

[Blue Sky]

Just another random thing but... does anyone here actually work? They are on the board... um... for quite a while...