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How did you find God?

About 10 years ago I was in VA Beach on vacation. Waves were pretty big that day, but hey I had to act like a little hard ass and try to stand in front of them. One big frigging wave came, and took my feet out. I smacked my head on the sand, and was laying there with enough water to cover my body. Anyone who has ever been to VA Beach will tell you the water is frigging green.

Suddenly I opened my eyes. The water had become calm and clear, I could see the sun from under water. I was at peace, extremely comfortable. However something told me I wasn't supposed to be there. Next thing I know another wave through me onto the drier sand where the water didn't cover me anymore. I took a big gasp of breath. I've never felt that sense of peace before, and have yet to recapture a feeling like it.

That incident made me believe that there is something peaceful waiting...one day.
 
I always here people with the argument that Christianity has been the cause of so many wars, and that this priest molested this little kid ect, or this minister or someone who represented the church did this so that is why I don't believe in god or follow god.
Yes there are a lot of people in church and involved in Christianity that are not who they claim to be, and who are hypocrits.
I don't understand how that can be a reason for someone not to believe, its kind of a scapegoat if you ask me. So because there are people who distort and pervert the true meaning and beliefs of God that makes Christianity itself wrong?

The thing that baffles me is whenever someone who is living their life for god or supposedly living their life for god, there are people waiting for them to fuck up, and usually whenever they fuck up it is mortified and made a huge deal. When this happens people always look at this and say: see he or they are supposed to be a man of God and living their life for God and yet they go and do something like that,,, how is it possible.

The fact that we are man makes us imperfect, it is not possible for any of us to be perfect and not make mistakes, but once it is known that you are living your life for God it is almost expected of you by others to live that perfect life, otherwise when you don't live that perfect life its the fault of religion. When you don't live that perfect life then others love to point that out saying look at that person, they are supposed to be so religious and yet they still fuck up.
For example a Church me and my family used to be very involved in, the head Pastor was forced to step down from his position and not be a Pastor anymore because a lot of people suspected that he was having an affair with his secretary. I don't doubt at all that he was having an affair with her either,,, hell him and his wife got a divorce and he is now married to the secretary he was having the affair with.
My point is that people love to point a finger at this kind of stuff and say: Yep look at that, Christianity, (or religion,,, what ever you choose to call it) and those are the people telling us how to live our lives and that we live in sin, when they can't even live their own lives without sin or fucking up.
Just like to point out that yes that Pastor did fuck up big time, but it was him that fucked up not Christianity.
 
Rex said:
About 10 years ago I was in VA Beach on vacation. Waves were pretty big that day, but hey I had to act like a little hard ass and try to stand in front of them. One big frigging wave came, and took my feet out. I smacked my head on the sand, and was laying there with enough water to cover my body. Anyone who has ever been to VA Beach will tell you the water is frigging green.

Suddenly I opened my eyes. The water had become calm and clear, I could see the sun from under water. I was at peace, extremely comfortable. However something told me I wasn't supposed to be there. Next thing I know another wave through me onto the drier sand where the water didn't cover me anymore. I took a big gasp of breath. I've never felt that sense of peace before, and have yet to recapture a feeling like it.

That incident made me believe that there is something peaceful waiting...one day.

That was powerful man.

gave me goos bumps to read that.

the thought of reocurrance had crossed my mind as well ( of the religiuos experience).

but lets just be thankful it happened at all.

I know am
:angel:
 
If you are talking about the bible's version of God, then no I have never found him.


If you are talking about there being a higher power then yes I have found him or yes I do believe in him.

The God I believe in loves everyone, no matter what religion you believe or don't believe in. He doesn't make a distinction between those that go to church/ temple and those that don't go. He places more importance on the way you live your life everyday, not just on the sabbath or holy day.
 
Big 4 life

just thought I would say I think your 100% on the $$:)

interesting side note bout the bible

as a historical document it is extremely accurate in displaying the social, political, cultural, and economic issues of the day.

just remeber to READ THE TEXT WITHIN CONTEXT:)
 
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ok i'm gonna "take a leap of faith" here :D and guess that big4 would apply that to living as a homosexual also, for instance, which would essentially create conflict with your agreement with his statement.

just an observation.
 
OMEGA said:

interesting side note bout the bible

as a historical document it is extremely accurate in displaying the social, political, cultural, and economic issues of the day.

I think it's more the inaccuracies in the Bible (e.g. its inconsistencies) that are most telling when it comes to giving insight toward the social, political, cultural and economic issues of the day. A lot of the dates and characters are verifiable and so, in this sense, the Bible is a worthy historical document but, as with most historical sources, it's the telling of the tale that most tells of the teller. For example, take the Gospel of John and compare it to the other three Gospels. The sequence of events are totally different and the places of emphasis are completely different too. In John, for example, Jesus' human lineage is ignored and he is instead promoted as the supernatural Word. In the Synoptics, however, he is linked to the line of David, and a good many chapters are dedicated to his infant human development and parentage. All the Gospel writers are writing about the same man, however, because they have different messages about him that they wish to emphasise, they tell their tales differently. It's inconsistency like this that, for me at least, speaks the most about the cultural climate at the time each verse, chapter and book was written.

... sorry for the ramble ... I'm really interested in the philosophy of religion so I tend to get a bit verbose ;)
 
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