Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below First I want to say hello. It has been some time since I have posted. I fell very ill on my last cycle 3 yrs ago and it nearly did me in. I am now on trt stats are 42 yr old male, 215 lbs, 20% bf, test was 416, e2 30, bp 125/80. Been on trt now for 4mos. He has me taking inj. test cyp 200mg a month. once a week I get an inj of .5ml. Just got my new blood work back, test 819, e2 this time was still 30, bp and everything else looked great. The problem is this, after my inj. I get a bad headache the next morning that lasts for about 2 days. Doc is not sure what it is, everything checks out fine. My diet is good and I have finally been able to start working out again. Just cant seem to figure out what is causing it. I took it upon myself and started primo. 50mg cause when I get the headache my head feels "watery". I have been on many cycles in the past befor I got ill and have never experienced anything like this. I understand taking the inj. spaced that far apart can lead to ups and downs and im willing to deal with that, I just cant seem to shake these headaches. I take 50mg of zinc daily, 500mg of vit, E, and one asprin. Doc is thinking about taking me off the test and i'm fighting him tooth and nail. I used to have a naturally high test levels when I was younger ( was tested at 1200nl) at 29 yr, dont recall what my other levels were, no supplements. So 800 is not what I would like to have but it will do, at least i feel like moving off the couch. I need some advice as what to do about these headaches. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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headaches can be caused by multiple things.. your doc obviously is clueless here because every test he does on you shows everything normal, and docs go by tests cause that was what they were taught in med school, and if the tests say normal then by god you are normal.
did u have headaches before you took the cyp? or did it start after. if so you should try another test. thats the only advice anyone on here can really give you in this situation. if thats not possible then you have to weigh the pros and cons.
did u have headaches before you took the cyp? or did it start after. if so you should try another test. thats the only advice anyone on here can really give you in this situation. if thats not possible then you have to weigh the pros and cons.
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lartinos
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Try a good dose of magnesium right after your injection.
Maybe even try changing the injection site.Maybe even a little baby aspirin as well with the magnesium.
Let us know how it works out for you.
Maybe even try changing the injection site.Maybe even a little baby aspirin as well with the magnesium.
Let us know how it works out for you.
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lartinos
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Here's something I pulled off the interwebs about magnesium.
So just what is the magnesium migraines connection?
Researchers have been investigating the magnesium migraines connection because of magnesium's role in stabilizing blood vessels walls. Magnesium is also an important mineral when it comes to helping you get to sleep. Regular sleeping patterns are also very important to migraine sufferers. Magnesium also helps in protein synthesis, and keeps your bones strong and helps maintain normal nerve and muscle function.
It was first suggested that a deficiency in magnesium could cause
headaches over 70 years ago. It makes sense, because a lot of the things that cause the body to run short of magnesium also either trigger migraines or lower your resistance. For example alcohol, stress, and menstruation. Today we know that about half of the people who get migraines are also short of a certain type of magnesium (serum ionized).
When faced with a migraine that won't respond to treatment, many headache specialists will give an injection of magnesium. You should be able to get benefits from long term (2-3 months or more) regular magnesium supplements. The magnesium migraines link may make a big difference to many people.
Is my magnesium low?
Chances are good that you do not have a serious magnesium deficiency. However, there are situations where magnesium can get low. Certain drugs especially can lower your amounts of magnesium, such as diuretics and certain antibiotics. Alcohol may also lower your magnesium levels.
Researchers are sharply divided on the need for magnesium in migraineurs. Most believe that magnesium may play some role in migraine, but some believe that increasing your body's magnesium is THE key in eliminating migraine, even if you don't have a "serious deficiency".
Dr. Sarah DeRossett, American neurologist and headache specialist was quoted in July 2003 in support of magnesium and riboflavin/vitamin B2 for migraine sufferers. "About 15 to 20 percent of the American population is deficient in magnesium, and patients who have migraines have lower blood levels of magnesium than patients who don't have migraines." Read the article here.
You would be wise to make sure you're eating plenty of magnesium-rich foods. If your magnesium is very low, your doctor may suggest a supplement or injections, or even intravenous treatment. Magnesium migraines treatment is becoming more and more popular with migraine sufferers.
Normal adults require about 310-420mg of magnesium daily. Be aware that too much magnesium can cause side effects, and that there are different types of magnesium, which is why it is wise to be monitored by a doctor before you drastically raise your magnesium levels through supplements.
Symptoms of low magnesium...
Magnesium is important to the body, and so low magnesium can cause a host of problems, such as:
irregular heartbeats, loss of appetite, insomnia (a killer for migraineurs!), weakness, shortness of breath, PMS, anxiety, dizziness, nausea, and poor coordination.
What can I eat to boost my magnesium?
First, try to cut down on the processed food you eat. Processed food is prepared in such a way that it cuts down the magnesium.
Magnesium is found in many foods, but some of the best include wheat germ, beans, soy products, whole grains, seafood, dark green leafy vegetables, bananas (warning: bananas are a major migraine trigger for some people) and milk.
Magnesium migraines and the BIG PICTURE
So many migraine treatments have to be seen as part of the big picture. One thing effects the other. Researchers are more and more realizing that the interaction of various things in your body need to be taken into consideration when it comes to migraine – the way chemicals react together, the way various organs work with the nervous system. That's why migraineurs need to try combinations of treatments. There may be a magnesium migraines treatment that involves more than just taking magnesium itself.
One of the more popular proponents of magnesium supplements, Dr. Alexander Mauskop, is the director of the New York Headache Center. He writes in his book What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Migraines that he has found a treatment that is remarkably effective using magnesium, vitamin B2 and feverfew. He makes a good case for the magnesium migraines link and has backed up his opinion with good research.
Dr Barton M Alturn, professor of physiology and medicine at the State University of New York Health Science Center also writes about the magnesium migraines connection (quoted in Nature's Medicines ):
We believe that everyone should be taking 500-600 milligrams of magnesium a day in a combination of diet and supplements.
A study in June 2008 also confirmed the benefits of magnesium for migraineurs. Read more about this study, titled The effects of magnesium prophylaxis in migraine without aura.
What kind of magnesium should I buy?
So you've decided that you'd like to try a magnesium supplement, you know there's a magnesium migraines link, but there are dozens out there - which should you try?
Certain types of magnesium are not well absorbed by the body. Too much magnesium, particularly the wrong kinds of magnesium, can cause diarrhea and simply make your mineral deficiency worse. Also, remember to take magnesium for at least 60-90 days to see if it makes a difference.
If your body isn't absorbing magnesium well, try avoid these types of magnesium: Oxide, hydroxide, and chloride. Instead, look for magnesium types that end in "ate", particularly glycinate, but also gluconate, lactate and orotate.
Note: Very often two or more types of magnesium are combined, such as oxide and citrate. The best thing is to simply talk to your doctor and then try one kind and see how your body handles it.
Source Naturals has an excellent supplement which contains 400mg of magnesium, which many doctors suggest as a good amount for migraineurs to take. It's called Ultra-Mag Magnesium complex.
A very good supplement for migraine containing magnesium and other migraine-fighting componants is MigreLief. There is now an article online about MigreLief that you can read. You can also purchase MigreLief with magnesium here.
A note about calcium: Magnesium and calcium
balance each other out in the body. If you have too much of one and not enough of another, it can cause problems. That's one reason why it's important not to take too much of one or the other.
However, when taking magnesium for migraine don't buy a calcium/magnesium blend. If you're taking a calcium supplement, take it at another time of day. It can interfere with the benefits of the magnesium for migraine.
So just what is the magnesium migraines connection?
Researchers have been investigating the magnesium migraines connection because of magnesium's role in stabilizing blood vessels walls. Magnesium is also an important mineral when it comes to helping you get to sleep. Regular sleeping patterns are also very important to migraine sufferers. Magnesium also helps in protein synthesis, and keeps your bones strong and helps maintain normal nerve and muscle function.
It was first suggested that a deficiency in magnesium could cause
headaches over 70 years ago. It makes sense, because a lot of the things that cause the body to run short of magnesium also either trigger migraines or lower your resistance. For example alcohol, stress, and menstruation. Today we know that about half of the people who get migraines are also short of a certain type of magnesium (serum ionized).
When faced with a migraine that won't respond to treatment, many headache specialists will give an injection of magnesium. You should be able to get benefits from long term (2-3 months or more) regular magnesium supplements. The magnesium migraines link may make a big difference to many people.
Is my magnesium low?
Chances are good that you do not have a serious magnesium deficiency. However, there are situations where magnesium can get low. Certain drugs especially can lower your amounts of magnesium, such as diuretics and certain antibiotics. Alcohol may also lower your magnesium levels.
Researchers are sharply divided on the need for magnesium in migraineurs. Most believe that magnesium may play some role in migraine, but some believe that increasing your body's magnesium is THE key in eliminating migraine, even if you don't have a "serious deficiency".
Dr. Sarah DeRossett, American neurologist and headache specialist was quoted in July 2003 in support of magnesium and riboflavin/vitamin B2 for migraine sufferers. "About 15 to 20 percent of the American population is deficient in magnesium, and patients who have migraines have lower blood levels of magnesium than patients who don't have migraines." Read the article here.
You would be wise to make sure you're eating plenty of magnesium-rich foods. If your magnesium is very low, your doctor may suggest a supplement or injections, or even intravenous treatment. Magnesium migraines treatment is becoming more and more popular with migraine sufferers.
Normal adults require about 310-420mg of magnesium daily. Be aware that too much magnesium can cause side effects, and that there are different types of magnesium, which is why it is wise to be monitored by a doctor before you drastically raise your magnesium levels through supplements.
Symptoms of low magnesium...
Magnesium is important to the body, and so low magnesium can cause a host of problems, such as:
irregular heartbeats, loss of appetite, insomnia (a killer for migraineurs!), weakness, shortness of breath, PMS, anxiety, dizziness, nausea, and poor coordination.
What can I eat to boost my magnesium?
First, try to cut down on the processed food you eat. Processed food is prepared in such a way that it cuts down the magnesium.
Magnesium is found in many foods, but some of the best include wheat germ, beans, soy products, whole grains, seafood, dark green leafy vegetables, bananas (warning: bananas are a major migraine trigger for some people) and milk.
Magnesium migraines and the BIG PICTURE
So many migraine treatments have to be seen as part of the big picture. One thing effects the other. Researchers are more and more realizing that the interaction of various things in your body need to be taken into consideration when it comes to migraine – the way chemicals react together, the way various organs work with the nervous system. That's why migraineurs need to try combinations of treatments. There may be a magnesium migraines treatment that involves more than just taking magnesium itself.
One of the more popular proponents of magnesium supplements, Dr. Alexander Mauskop, is the director of the New York Headache Center. He writes in his book What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Migraines that he has found a treatment that is remarkably effective using magnesium, vitamin B2 and feverfew. He makes a good case for the magnesium migraines link and has backed up his opinion with good research.
Dr Barton M Alturn, professor of physiology and medicine at the State University of New York Health Science Center also writes about the magnesium migraines connection (quoted in Nature's Medicines ):
We believe that everyone should be taking 500-600 milligrams of magnesium a day in a combination of diet and supplements.
A study in June 2008 also confirmed the benefits of magnesium for migraineurs. Read more about this study, titled The effects of magnesium prophylaxis in migraine without aura.
What kind of magnesium should I buy?
So you've decided that you'd like to try a magnesium supplement, you know there's a magnesium migraines link, but there are dozens out there - which should you try?
Certain types of magnesium are not well absorbed by the body. Too much magnesium, particularly the wrong kinds of magnesium, can cause diarrhea and simply make your mineral deficiency worse. Also, remember to take magnesium for at least 60-90 days to see if it makes a difference.
If your body isn't absorbing magnesium well, try avoid these types of magnesium: Oxide, hydroxide, and chloride. Instead, look for magnesium types that end in "ate", particularly glycinate, but also gluconate, lactate and orotate.
Note: Very often two or more types of magnesium are combined, such as oxide and citrate. The best thing is to simply talk to your doctor and then try one kind and see how your body handles it.
Source Naturals has an excellent supplement which contains 400mg of magnesium, which many doctors suggest as a good amount for migraineurs to take. It's called Ultra-Mag Magnesium complex.
A very good supplement for migraine containing magnesium and other migraine-fighting componants is MigreLief. There is now an article online about MigreLief that you can read. You can also purchase MigreLief with magnesium here.
A note about calcium: Magnesium and calcium
balance each other out in the body. If you have too much of one and not enough of another, it can cause problems. That's one reason why it's important not to take too much of one or the other.
However, when taking magnesium for migraine don't buy a calcium/magnesium blend. If you're taking a calcium supplement, take it at another time of day. It can interfere with the benefits of the magnesium for migraine.
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lartinos
Guest
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im confused ...in roughly 10 years or so your test went from being off the chart to you needing to be on HRT?
Something is not right man, did you get a scan of your pituitary?
Im not an expert but you test levels should not be that low after being at 1200 that's too much of a decline in a relatively short period of time! That needs to be investigated further if I were you
I personally wouldnt have even cycled with a test level that high, you didnt need to IMO
To help with the confusion. They say I had some sort of endocrin crash. I have been scanned, MRI's out the wazuu. The only thing found was numerous "white" spots on several areas of my brain. As for my earlier test levels, we are all different and that being said our levels are all different as well. Mine were at that time normal for me. I have been on 4 different cycles in my life and I would say on the mild side. I never pushed the test very hard because my natural level was so high. My delema now is my system has crashed for whatever reason and im trying to get by on levels far lower than I was used to. I have switched from test cyp to enethate but I still have these headaches for two days after. I hate to give up on the trt and end up back where I was. I just cant seem to figure out what causes the headaches.
needtogetaas
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my friend. Add 5 caps every day hcgenerate to you cycle. This will normalize hormones and take care of the pain you are dealing with.
Damn. this really sucks!
Anything is possible I suppose but I still think something is causing your issue unfortunately is just hard to find it now!
SOmetimes ppl are allergic to something in the compound mix which I've seen it before. Try different brands and see
Read what they use for whatever test you are taking and switch to something different.
