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Gigantasor

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Ok! I’m throwing this out there for everyone and their dog to review. This is the basic run down of my diet. I have been doing this for about 12 weeks with some slight variation.

I have had a huge drop in BF and a decent increase in LM. However, the overall body weight has dropped and continues to drop. I am concerned about getting too small. I’m at about 4.9% right now at 222lbs. That 5% is with calipers so we all know that it can be/is typically skewed by a bit. Realistically I know I’m closer to 6 or 7% but I will give the numbers the calipers are giving me.

Let me give you a basic rundown. I started this process at 279lbs and 14.5% since that time I have dropped to 4.9% at 222lbs. I have used the same calipers with a pro doing my BF so I am pretty confident that I am getting the same pinch each time. I have been getting pinched every 2 weeks since I started this and I am about 3mos in. I wish I had my chart in front of me. I’d share the drops and dates that I was tested. Maybe later on.

Here are my concerns. My wife today told me that she has noticed that I look to be a bit less lean (meaning, I hope, that my vascularity has dropped off a bit) or that I may have put on a bit of BF in a short period of time. This is possible as I missed my pinch because I was out of town last week and have to wait another 7 days to schedule it. Anyhow, I believe that this change is a result of a slight cardio change and a change in my eating habits.

I had been doing a 3 on 1 off program consisting of 50mins on the StairMill at lvl 6-8 depending on how I was feeling and what I trained before cardio. I also throw in a few minutes on the stationary bike to warm up before I do my cardio and a few times a week I run a few miles after my stair work. I have been adding a bit of carbs too and that I believe is killing me. My training split and diet follow:


I lift daily at 5am and use the following split.

Monday – Chest & Bi’s
Tuesday – Quads
Wednesday – Back
Thursday – Shoulders & Tri
Friday – Off
Saturday – Hams + supplement body work (Whatever is lagging or I feel like training)
Sunday – Off

Abs & Calvs – Done every other day alternating abs or calvs.

This split is not optional. I train with someone whom I trust so I am comfortable with this training program. It is intense and works well for me regarding tempo and intensity.

Diet

Meal 1
10 egg whites
1 medium Banana
¼ cup low fat cottage cheese
Meal 2
9 oz Chicken breast (grilled)
2 tbl sp Low Fat dressing
4 oz raw vegetables (Carrots, broccoli, tomatoes)
Meal 3
9 oz Chicken breast (grilled)
2 tbl sp Low Fat dressing
4 oz raw vegetables (Carrots, broccoli, tomatoes)
Meal 4
9 oz Chicken breast (grilled)
2 tbl sp Low Fat dressing
4 oz raw vegetables (Carrots, broccoli, tomatoes)
Meal 5
9 oz Chicken breast (grilled)
2 tbl sp Low Fat dressing
4 oz raw vegetables (Carrots, broccoli, tomatoes)
Meal 6
9 oz Chicken breast (grilled) or 6 oz Salmon (grilled)
2 tbl sp Low Fat dressing
4 oz raw vegetables (Carrots, broccoli, tomatoes)

Notes: The dressing is often not used. However, I believe that I have been using it a bit more lately as a result of burn out on the food. I am taking meals every 2-3 hours. I try for the every two hour mark but work often gets in the way. I try to use the following schedule.

Meal 1 – 8am
Meal 2 – 10:30 am
Meal 3 – 12:30 pm
Meal 4 – 2:30 pm
Meal 5 – 4:30 pm
Meal 6 – 7 pm

My last meal is often taken at closer to 9 or 9:30 as a result of my extra curricular activities which require me to train 5-6 days a week in the evenings.

Anyhow, I think I’m going to cut to 205 lbs but I am concerned about the drop. I do not want to lose too much LM in this process but the drop is necessary for my sport. I try to lift and diet like a body builder but I am not a Body Builder (maybe later).

Due to the quick weight drop I have a good amount of folded skin around my mid section and my the damn love handles are still refusing to die. It is frustrating as hell but I’m working them off. I am terrified of backsliding.

I guess I’m just looking for comments, critiques, advice from folks who have been there. Anything that might help, I cannot stop this process and I will not but I guess a part of me is stressed out about how quickly I have made the drops, even though they are good (from what everyone tell me).

In all I guess I am just a bit frustrated in totality. This is a long, slow, frustrating process and I believe that I am getting impatient.

Whatever, I’m done writing my book. Any comments are welcome. If you flame that is cool too but I probably won’t read your comment.

Later all,

Gig
 
bro, you have love handles at 4.9%??? I think that is loose skin, you lost a lost quite fast. It might take some time to adjust

my question to you is: How much lower you want to get? I know you want to drop about 20 lbs more, but since you are already approaching the essential fat (3%) treshold, much of that weight will sadly be hard-gained LBM. The reason for this is that there is no much fat left in you. So you WILL get smaller.

How is your water retention?
 
you say this all the time.. sweety you are still young and growing.. You are essentially a little girl at 16 and really should not be dieting the way you are or taking supplements or be so obessesive about your body to this degree. Being healthy, and being obessessed are two different things.


StellarTiggy said:
you need more bodyfat. just convince yourself of that. take some of my fat

JUST TAKE IT FOR GOD'S SAKE
TAKE IT ALL! :p

I'd shoot for 3 hours diff minimally (3 1/2 would be optimal for me, but I eat like a pig..) between meals anyway. I don't believe a meal consisting of 9oz of chicken + veggies can fully digest in a 2 hr time per.
 
Thanks for the responses. I'm not sure how low I want to go. I met with my diet coach yesterday evening and tested at 4.5%.

He said pretty much the same thing about the loose skin and the water retention. From what I was told a lot of what I am dealing with is exactly that loose skin and water. It will just take some time for my body to realign to the smaller me.

It has been decided that I am going to drop to 205lbs. This is for my sport and so we can continue to strip the fat that may still be there. I'm now sure how low that will put me but I would rather be rock hard and ripped at 205 than smooth and even slightly flabby at 225lbs.

I'll keep you guys posted as things progress. I am going to continue to stay with the low carbs but I am going to work in a 1/2 cup dry oats in the morning to help with energy and boost my metabolism a bit. We will see how this works out. I'm just so damn carb sensitive.

I know I'm going to get smaller and this of course has me freaking out but it is what was agreed would be best at this point in order to deplete those stores that are so hard to get to.

Yesterdays pinch read as follows (from memory, I'll get a copy next time)

Total Body Weight: 222lbs
Total Lean Mass: 212lbs
Total Fat Mass: 10lbs (ouch)

Body Fat %: 4.5%

I cannot remember the numbers for the individual body parts but I will try to get them and share when I do. My memory sucks!

Anyway, thanks again. I'm in a much better place mentally, today than I was yesterday.
 
gigantasor said:
Thanks for the responses. I'm not sure how low I want to go. I met with my diet coach yesterday evening and tested at 4.5%.

He said pretty much the same thing about the loose skin and the water retention. From what I was told a lot of what I am dealing with is exactly that loose skin and water. It will just take some time for my body to realign to the smaller me.

It has been decided that I am going to drop to 205lbs. This is for my sport and so we can continue to strip the fat that may still be there. I'm now sure how low that will put me but I would rather be rock hard and ripped at 205 than smooth and even slightly flabby at 225lbs.

I'll keep you guys posted as things progress. I am going to continue to stay with the low carbs but I am going to work in a 1/2 cup dry oats in the morning to help with energy and boost my metabolism a bit. We will see how this works out. I'm just so damn carb sensitive.

I know I'm going to get smaller and this of course has me freaking out but it is what was agreed would be best at this point in order to deplete those stores that are so hard to get to.

Yesterdays pinch read as follows (from memory, I'll get a copy next time)

Total Body Weight: 222lbs
Total Lean Mass: 212lbs
Total Fat Mass: 10lbs (ouch)

Body Fat %: 4.5%

I cannot remember the numbers for the individual body parts but I will try to get them and share when I do. My memory sucks!

Anyway, thanks again. I'm in a much better place mentally, today than I was yesterday.



pics would be great, sounds like you've made lots of progress bro! :rainbow:
 
please excuse the ignorance of my question but, how can you be "smooth and even slightly flabby" at 4.5% body fat??? am i just missing something here? i would imagine someone at 220ish at 4.5% body fat to be one jacked mofo. just curious that's all...
 
I would space yoor meals at least 3 hours apart 6 times a day and don't go without food for more than 4 hours. Other than that your diet looks pretty tight.
 
45lbBar said:
please excuse the ignorance of my question but, how can you be "smooth and even slightly flabby" at 4.5% body fat??? am i just missing something here? i would imagine someone at 220ish at 4.5% body fat to be one jacked mofo. just curious that's all...


That my friend is the question at hand. I think it all comes back to how fast the weight came off and the amount of lose skin that is "hanging" around. I let my body get too far away from me for a while and I guess now I am paying the piper for being lazy. I killed the lazy bug and train my ass off but it is simply going to take longer to reach that goal of being "jacked".

I doing think it is ignorance but an honest question. I am wondering how I can look like I do at 4.5% as well.

Gig
 
I definitely would like to see some pics, if that is possible. Have you seen the pics of RADAR at 240 & 6% BF? the guy looks UNREAL, and he was 49yo.

BTW, there is nothing to "ouch" about 10lbs BF bro, you are already at a point where most of us could only DREAM about. Just fine tune
 
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