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Have you ever had abs like this?
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alien amp pharm
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If only you could somehow change your face as easily
yes... yes I did, actually i'd witnessed said abs before but never the depth and thickness and leaness that I witnessed for my comps. I was quite taken aback at how simple diet and depletion would take my body to a place that it had never gone before. I did it mostly alone but I hand out my hand to Sassy and QuadSweepsSister for the time they spent helping me over and over again, answering all my pms and such.
In the end, You can have someone write it out for you in bold red, hour by hour but if you don't do it yourself than no one will and you won't accomplish that goal you set forth to accomplish.
doesn't matter how damn good the trainer is, how damn good the person that prepares your diet is... CAN YOU DO IT? that is the question! And that is the question I ask my chicks and gals that I train. I can guide them, give them info, steer them in the right direction... but I can't make them do anything. THEY HAVE TO WANT IT.
MY FIRST WORDS ARE
'DO YOU WANT IT?' HOW BAD DO YOU WANT IT? SHOW ME HOW BAD YOU WANT IT?
In the end, You can have someone write it out for you in bold red, hour by hour but if you don't do it yourself than no one will and you won't accomplish that goal you set forth to accomplish.
doesn't matter how damn good the trainer is, how damn good the person that prepares your diet is... CAN YOU DO IT? that is the question! And that is the question I ask my chicks and gals that I train. I can guide them, give them info, steer them in the right direction... but I can't make them do anything. THEY HAVE TO WANT IT.
MY FIRST WORDS ARE
'DO YOU WANT IT?' HOW BAD DO YOU WANT IT? SHOW ME HOW BAD YOU WANT IT?
Mavafanculo
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Lestat said:No matter what I do in life, I can at least say I had abs at some point. I'll cherish this picture if I ever turn into an obese fatty:
hard to have abs natty (for me anyway), but easy with some help.
main problem is stress of living an actual life (as oppossed to pro BB'er) causes you to spit out cortisol, and abdominal fat is cortisol dependant (like love handles are estrogen dependent)
samoth said:Silly bodybuilders and their "abs" and "reps". Sure, they may look pretty and stuff, but where's your core strength at? Can you do bent-over GMs at 600lbs for triples? Box squats over 500lbs?
You should try a Metal Militia workout for a few weeks and see how you fare.
Honestly Samoth, I did very little ab work at all, most of all work was a core work that dealt with gm's, squats, and dl's. I may have added in some ab work once every week or every other week. I built my core mostly thru my PL'ing training and woking some serious core work. (core work means having to freaking squat and gm, not some pansy ass crunch)
Mavafanculo
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samoth said:Silly bodybuilders and their "abs" and "reps". Sure, they may look pretty and stuff, but where's your core strength at? Can you do bent-over GMs at 600lbs for triples? Box squats over 500lbs?
You should try a Metal Militia workout for a few weeks and see how you fare.
yeah, but when you go to the beach, do you lug around a set of barbells and do deadlifts to pull tang??
its easier to just have abs and muscles lol
Mavafanculo said:
I work out for myself, not to 'show off' to a bunch of strangers. I don't give a damn what people think of me or my physique... it is my vice, and I am the only judge and critique of it. Pretty CK boys can suck it -- they're just superficial and trying to show off something to others in order to boost their own self esteem ("oooh, lookit all the girls checkin' me out, man"). My love is with the iron and pushing myself, not caring about what other people think.
jnevin
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samoth said:I work out for myself, not to 'show off' to a bunch of strangers. I don't give a damn what people think of me or my physique... it is my vice, and I am the only judge and critique of it. Pretty CK boys can suck it -- they're just superficial and trying to show off something to others in order to boost their own self esteem ("oooh, lookit all the girls checkin' me out, man"). My love is with the iron and pushing myself, not caring about what other people think.
When I have abs, as opposed to the ab I currently have damnit, I'm still a 33" waist because it's all core. I never like having a gut either, because it's always from me eating like shit or not working hard enough.
Mavafanculo
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.....OoooooooooKaayyyy... *COUGHvirginCOUGH* lol.samoth said:I work out for myself, not to 'show off' to a bunch of strangers. I don't give a damn what people think of me or my physique... it is my vice, and I am the only judge and critique of it. Pretty CK boys can suck it -- they're just superficial and trying to show off something to others in order to boost their own self esteem ("oooh, lookit all the girls checkin' me out, man"). My love is with the iron and pushing myself, not caring about what other people think.
meathead alert!samoth said:Silly bodybuilders and their "abs" and "reps". Sure, they may look pretty and stuff, but where's your core strength at? Can you do bent-over GMs at 600lbs for triples? Box squats over 500lbs?
You should try a Metal Militia workout for a few weeks and see how you fare.
bro, when having a strong core starts getting people laid I'll look into it.
PWTurbofan
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What do y'all do for abs? I got one of those "ab wheel" thingers - just a plastic wheel with a rod thru it. Seems to be treating my abs nicely. Also do weighted situps on a decline bench. But no matter what I do, my lower two abs never pop out. I know diet plays a huge role in this, and I guess because of that I'll always have a measly semi-4-pack. I've been eating clean, but eating a boatload of clean trying to bulk a bit. My lower abs love to retain fat.
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swole
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who gives a shit about someone having abs @ 180lbs
maybe you should model for next season's abercrombie and fitch kids catalog
and before you say i'm jealous:
i'm sick of you prancing around C&C like it's your inflated balloon-head's personal supply of self-esteem boosting helium
yes, we know you're not tiny. yes, we know you're not hugely fat. yes, we know you make decent money and live in San Diego. yes, we know you fuck 7/10 chicks, which is good for a 5/10 guy. yes, we know you love your life and your right bicep. yes, we know you can impress fatty mcbiologicaltimeclockrunningoutbutistillwanttogetlaid, yes Lestat, we know.
maybe you should model for next season's abercrombie and fitch kids catalog
and before you say i'm jealous:
i'm sick of you prancing around C&C like it's your inflated balloon-head's personal supply of self-esteem boosting helium
yes, we know you're not tiny. yes, we know you're not hugely fat. yes, we know you make decent money and live in San Diego. yes, we know you fuck 7/10 chicks, which is good for a 5/10 guy. yes, we know you love your life and your right bicep. yes, we know you can impress fatty mcbiologicaltimeclockrunningoutbutistillwanttogetlaid, yes Lestat, we know.
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The Shadow
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SWOLE
how tall are you orb?
how tall are you orb?
jnevin said:
Not as painful as DLing off knee-high pins for 10+ reps at over 500lbs (for grip work). I tore a callouse straight off. Returned the nice white gym towel back to them half stained in red... they just gave me that glare, lol.
Now if I could only do just one rep without having one hand supine... it seems so easy, but it's damned hard, lol.
jnevin
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samoth said:Not as painful as DLing off knee-high pins for 10+ reps at over 500lbs (for grip work). I tore a callouse straight off. Returned the nice white gym towel back to them half stained in red... they just gave me that glare, lol.
Now if I could only do just one rep without having one hand supine... it seems so easy, but it's damned hard, lol.
I can get 10 maybe 12 reps DL'ing 315 but I need straps. I can maybe get 3 or 4 without them. My grip sucks. Stupid T-rex forearms...
jelus alert!!!!!swole said:who gives a shit about someone having abs @ 180lbs
maybe you should model for next season's abercrombie and fitch kids catalog
and before you say i'm jealous:
i'm sick of you prancing around C&C like it's your inflated balloon-head's personal supply of self-esteem boosting helium
yes, we know you're not tiny. yes, we know you're not hugely fat. yes, we know you make decent money and live in San Diego. yes, we know you fuck 7/10 chicks, which is good for a 5/10 guy. yes, we know you love your life and your right bicep. yes, we know you can impress fatty mcbiologicaltimeclockrunningoutbutistillwanttogetlaid, yes Lestat, we know.
jnevin said:
I was the same way when I was BBing. I switched over to PLing (Westside and Militia) and incorporated grip work. I've never used straps since.
(Hey, give it a shot, grip strength can be important and stuff. Just look at Priest's hand muscle growth thingy, lololol.)
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Gambino
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lol at some of the responses
lestat looking good bor
myself, i have a 32 inch waist, but not the definition you have, kinda fatty right now @ around 200lbs.
i rarely do abs, i figure core work gets er done
lestat looking good bor
myself, i have a 32 inch waist, but not the definition you have, kinda fatty right now @ around 200lbs.
i rarely do abs, i figure core work gets er done
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Gambino
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really?Lestat said:
in that pic? i would've thought more 32ish
is this gaye to talk about?
i'm a lot fatter than you and still solid 32
weird
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Gambino
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did you sauce to get to 190?get456 said:jesus... im 190 and 5'7 and feel tiny
i cant imagine being 7 inches taller and 190... with pencil thick abs
respectable for a natty at your height IMO
alexmichael
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I probably have the worst diet of anyone at Elitefitness (fast food at least once every day) and I still have these abs at 40. I'm never going to be big 5-10 195lbs but the chicks love the abs.Lestat said:
DannoMight
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I'm lucky enough to have abs year round even without dieting.
myway
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I actually get abs kinda easily. My arms and abs always are the first to lean out. If I gain fat.... it goes strait to my hips and ass(yuck!!!!) That's why I run sooo much. It's the only thing that keeps my lower body looking lean. If I didn't run, I would have a 28 inch waist with 40 inch hips. It's disgusting. Gotta RUN RUN RUN!
myway
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I promise. I know what you mean.... but no matter what eating style...diet.. whatever.. if I don't run or do something similiar, I don't look lean.healother said:
I have been working out since I was very young. My dad was very into sports and my uncle still runs marathons and bikes a TON and he is 65y/o.
I have always been a lean eater. My parents never allowed me to have junk so I never developed the junk habit. Actually, if u look back on the women's threads...when I was new, I came here because I was trying to gain muscle and weight. I needed to up my cals. I am finally at a good spot. Cutting them would be bad. I can get very small...fast BUT my legs will not look lean without good leg cardio(running or something similiar) about 4 days a week. I just have that crazy body type.
plifter
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samoth said:I work out for myself, not to 'show off' to a bunch of strangers. I don't give a damn what people think of me or my physique... it is my vice, and I am the only judge and critique of it. Pretty CK boys can suck it -- they're just superficial and trying to show off something to others in order to boost their own self esteem ("oooh, lookit all the girls checkin' me out, man"). My love is with the iron and pushing myself, not caring about what other people think.
As a retired powerlifter I've got to give a big amen to this statement. It's nice when you're strong and women still like your look.
for the lower, I found that hanging leg lifts (start with knees bend then work up to straight legs) worked them the best.PWTurbofan said:
I also did massiave amounts of crunches, sets of 50 for up to 200 per day. Weighted crunches. Plus some of that ab roller nonsense with the wheel (least effective in my opinion).
I'm the type that does it to show off for others and boost my self esteem.samoth said:I work out for myself, not to 'show off' to a bunch of strangers. I don't give a damn what people think of me or my physique... it is my vice, and I am the only judge and critique of it. Pretty CK boys can suck it -- they're just superficial and trying to show off something to others in order to boost their own self esteem ("oooh, lookit all the girls checkin' me out, man"). My love is with the iron and pushing myself, not caring about what other people think.
jackangel
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that's fair enough. i haven't maintained the discipline needed. i was on track like over 2 years ago, but i got stoned. lmao. also, i blame the middle east. now i'm being a good boy, but i'm also skinny as fuck and haven't worked out since 3/2004 (excluding the last 2-3 weeks back in the gym). thus, i'm hoping to walk the line and shed the remainder of this small "gut" (guessing i'm at 13-14%?) and lean out in general, but while also adding some muscle mass back. even eating a clean 1700-2000 calories a day is a chore. and that may just barely be enough to go above maintenance and gain some mass (i'm about 155) back, depending on my overall activity level. hopefully things like cardio and yohimburn make some difference.
and this notion of the superiority of strength and doing something strictly for one's self, while fine (and something that i appreciate because i want strength), is ultimately no better than lifting to look good for both yourself and others. if you try to justify it on an objective basis, you will fail. so do your thang and do it well, whatever it is.
and this notion of the superiority of strength and doing something strictly for one's self, while fine (and something that i appreciate because i want strength), is ultimately no better than lifting to look good for both yourself and others. if you try to justify it on an objective basis, you will fail. so do your thang and do it well, whatever it is.
good luck with your goals bro.jackangel said:
if I were you I'd start out lifting heavy and bump those calories up and just resign yourself to the fact that you'll be a little soft throughout the fall/winter.
Then about feb/march time, cut back on the diet, add in some cardio, and melt that fat off revealing all of your hard earned results.
Raptorex
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Lestat said:
I workout with a bunch of guys that always want to be bigger, some have gone from 195 to 290... sacrificing body fat for strength.
I always argue, would you look more quickly at a lean chick or a fat chick...its that simple. Women look at us, just like we look at them.
not low carbs, but no simple sugars. All complex carbs from whole grains and what not. Pretty high protein and high fat, I love avocados, almonds, peanut butter, etc.mightymouse69 said:
I can eat up to about 2500 cals and still maintain a deficit. Its a nice luxury. When i go below 3000 I feel hungry all the time though.
I use caffeine a lot. Before every workout to give me a little boost.mightymouse69 said:
When I am starting my spring cut, I use a lot of thermos. I was using all the AFstore stuff for a while. I think i can acheive the same results now on my own without it, but I believe it helped me before I knew exactly what to eat and what not to.
this was my abs, after a full day of eating sugar and drinking captians and coke, along with having wings and guiness! I have another pic somewhere that was taken a day before comp and they were more defined, may be in my gallery somewhere. p
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2iiaiwh
http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=2iiaiwh
jh1
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mightymouse69 said:
Orb... there is one reason I work out: Girls.
If peeps are about strength, I am happy for them. I could care a less about it - as long as I can move lift a chic up high enough to drop her on my dick... I am golden.
So... for me... it's what it takes to make the girls drool. Plain and simple. If that means looking the an A&F boy... fine by me. Don't be hating when I show up to a party full of meat heads and all the fine ass girls want to see JH1s core.... and oooohhhhh and ahhhh over definition.
I see the haters in the corner... 10x stronger than me... I hear them whispering about how scrawny I am... how I don't really know iron. LOL... like I care, their girls think about me. The fact is... the majority of girls prefer a lean guy with great body over some overly developed muscle head. Argue away... I am right.
Good work Lestat... keep it up.
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The Shadow
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LOL
SOunds like a rib spreader
SOunds like a rib spreader
LOL, at breaking up your abdominal exercises. LOL at doing Brittany Spears workout....
Ok, I'll quit dogging ya
but seriously, I did better with serious core work, You would be amazed at what it does for you. No need to do umpteen sets of crunches tuts... Work that damn core and make it stronger!
I only did abs ever other week ... sometimes did it once a week, You can crunch all you want, that won't make those abs come out. Its your diet, the layer of fat that covers your abs. Everyone has them... most just don't even know they are there.
That being said, a solid core is a wonderful thing. I've found that the more I strengthen my core (no... not crunches... but weighted ab work) The more I can squat and shizzle... the less stress on my back.
Ok, I'll quit dogging ya
but seriously, I did better with serious core work, You would be amazed at what it does for you. No need to do umpteen sets of crunches tuts... Work that damn core and make it stronger!
I only did abs ever other week ... sometimes did it once a week, You can crunch all you want, that won't make those abs come out. Its your diet, the layer of fat that covers your abs. Everyone has them... most just don't even know they are there.
That being said, a solid core is a wonderful thing. I've found that the more I strengthen my core (no... not crunches... but weighted ab work) The more I can squat and shizzle... the less stress on my back.
JH1 said:Orb... there is one reason I work out: Girls.
If peeps are about strength, I am happy for them. I could care a less about it - as long as I can move lift a chic up high enough to drop her on my dick... I am golden.
So... for me... it's what it takes to make the girls drool. Plain and simple. If that means looking the an A&F boy... fine by me. Don't be hating when I show up to a party full of meat heads and all the fine ass girls want to see JH1s core.... and oooohhhhh and ahhhh over definition.
I see the haters in the corner... 10x stronger than me... I hear them whispering about how scrawny I am... how I don't really know iron. LOL... like I care, their girls think about me. The fact is... the majority of girls prefer a lean guy with great body over some overly developed muscle head. Argue away... I am right.
Good work Lestat... keep it up.
Replace girls/her with guys/him and I agree.
Nothing worse than some fatty bozos who are too lazy to diet down and show what their gym efforts are all about. Why spend all that time in the gym if it doesn't show. Yeah, you might be strong. Big deal. That really comes in handy sometimes doesn't it? Fact is, you put me and some powerlifter in the same room and ask people who is stronger, they will always choose me simply because I look like I am. Only way he can prove different is to lug in a rack and barbells.
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