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nycgirl said:I strongly disagree. I think Jen's post was misunderstood. As I said in this and other posts, one does not have to be married and have children to understand certain things.
nycgirl said:I know exactly what Jen is talking about because I saw it with my parent's marriage. My mom would always be on top of my sister and I, but rarely did she ask my Dad "How was your day?". She would always stay late at work but rarely show any affection to my father. She took care of all of the chores and catered to him (my Dad is an OLD-fashioned man) and when she couldn't my sister and I cooked and cleaned. Don't get me wrong, she loved him. But she neglected his emotional and physical needs.
Could you please explain how two people can BOTH fight to stay together.....yet mysteriously cant stay together??? Is there some sort of invisible force field keeping two people apart that want to be together??? Two people either want to be with each other and actually want to do what is necessary to be with each other, or they dont. If the actions arent there to back up the words, the words were bullshit in the first place. Just say that one of you didnt want to make it work instead of "we both fought to make it work" because obviously you didnt.Frisky said:We both did fight to make it work, but I guess our fight wasn't good enough. Thing is, you can't just fight the good fight at the end when your bleeding to death. You have to fight the good fight from day one. We waited to late to try to salvage our marriage.
I learned ALOT. relationships are not born they are harvested. If you don't plan the seed and water the fruit then you will end up with a dead tree.
superdave said:Two people either want to be with each other and actually want to do what is necessary to be with each other, or they dont. If the actions arent there to back up the words, the words were bullshit in the first place.
superdave said:Could you please explain how two people can BOTH fight to stay together.....yet mysteriously cant stay together??? Is there some sort of invisible force field keeping two people apart that want to be together??? Two people either want to be with each other and actually want to do what is necessary to be with each other, or they dont. If the actions arent there to back up the words, the words were bullshit in the first place. Just say that one of you didnt want to make it work instead of "we both fought to make it work" because obviously you didnt.
Frisky said:Our fights were at different times... I fought for YEARS to make things work, we talked about our problems, solutions.. etc. It wasn't until my fight was gone and honestly for me it was very close to being to late.. Then he decided he would finally put some fight in. I needed just a little time, not once even mentioned divorce but he completely paniced, went nuts and made a relationship that could have been salvaged completely sour.
I didn't get into detail of 11 years of the trials of marriage, honestly I could be here all day for years talking about it. Yes thru out the span we did fight for it.. was it enough, apparently it wasn't. I have no lame excuse as to 'why' all I know is that we didnt' fight hard enough, or the fight came to late and the marriage was to far gone. If I had all the answers i'd kick Dr. Phil in the nuts and take his job.
I don't, I married young, only second serious relationship. Kids came young, things just didn't fall into the perfect marriage. I won't say I was never happy becuase that would be total bullshit. My reasons for a failed marriage may not be what you would agree with, but they were my reasons.
velvett said:Four of the most important words.
"How was you day?"
superdave said:Obviously two people have to want the relationship at the same time, duh. Thats like me breaking up with my girlfriend who later decides she wants me back. Sorry but she had her chance and didnt think about that while I was trying to make it work with her. From what you are saying the same thing happened in your marriage except you remained under the same roof.
velvett said:Four of the most important words.
"How was your day?"
Ie: I give shit about how you are doing, how you are feeling and if I can make you feel better tell me how.
HumorMe said:I bet that is hard to say without looking like an idiot to your spouse.