girls POV...closing the deal

[Big Rick Rock]

I haven't read all of the thread but....

"Closing the deal" on a chick you met at the club can be tought for a couple of reasons.

1) Selection, selection, selection.... You see faces, tits and ass but you don't see minds or hearts. The most gorgeous girl can be a slut that will bang you after she has a had few drinks OR... she can be a girl looking for a good partner (long term), she will not be going home with ANYBODY tonight. A so-so looking chick can have a huge complex and be starving for attention, she will take you home and want to make YOU happy, as long as she can feel wanted by you… There are hundreds of possible scenerios. You just never know who you are talking to, and it is very rare that a "nice" girl will bang a random guy at a club(maybe if she is heart broken enough)... it does happen but not too often SO… more than 70% of your chances of getting laid that night depend on who you select as the person you want to go after that night…


2) Let’s say you were lucky enough to target a girl that “would” sleep with you tonight… she might be the "right girl" girl but not the "right now girl"… Yes, she might be cute, nice, and loose. She may want to bang you. But…. she may not want to sleep with you tonight. Maybe she doesn’t trust being alone with you yet. Maybe her friend flow is in town. Maybe she is out with her Christian cousin whom is visiting from Kentucky, and although she wants nothing more than to bang your brains out, she does not want her cousins telling all her family about how she went home with a guy she just met…. There are many variable so please don’t disregard numbers. Keep them, and follow up on them, every number you have is a hot contact. I guarantee you’ll have more success smoothing her over the phone or at lunch than you will at a night club.


3) Let’s say god smiled upon you today and you have selected to talk to a “right now girl”…. She may very well be willing to bang you tonight, but she also wants to be romanced and in most cases get a second look at you in some decent lighting. You just have to have a secondary spot to go to with a chick as soon as you leave the club… In some cases you will lose her interest if you suggest “lets go to my place”… She does not know you, or know how many chopped up heads you have in your fridge… If you take her to another place after the club, like the beach, or a lake, or an after hours bar your chances to romance her will improve. Here in NY there are some great 24hr restaurants, that is all good as long as she doesn’t completely stuff her face and fee like she doesn’t want to have sex afterwards… kind of like eating and swimming, you have to wait a good while.



4) OK… So… you picked a “right now girl” and you are now at LZ Bravo (secondary position) you are alone and you have her interest, you are making her laugh and you have already kissed her at the club so you know you are in there… Don’t ask her to have sex with you… Although women like to hear how much you want them, I guarantee they will appreciate it more if you make them want YOU. Kiss her the right way, hold her the right way. Don’t just try to steal home!! Hit a home run and trot around all the bases slowly and calmly touching each one as you head home. Take your time and savor the moment. There is no better feeling than the anticipation of knowing you are about to have sex with this girl… savor it, take it slow. Try to avoid all of the awkward moments like trying to get the braw off, or unbuttoning her pants. Learn how to unclip a braw with one hand (I learned in 9th grade) learn how to undo a button with one hand while not looking (a little harder but doable)… Take it slow, make it good for her, romance her and make it memorable. This is the fork on the road, you can either have a on night stand(and unsatisfied female that will tell everybody you sucked in bed) or a fuck buddy that will provide many hours of entertainment in the weeks to come.

PS on #4: if you are going to put your hand down her pants and double click her mouse… make sure to have the decency to wash your hands first. Have some bottled water in the car and a little bottle of soap. Or use a wet nap to clean you hads. There is no reason to touch a girl’s private area after having touched door knobs, phones, car steering wheel and even handled money all night… Have some respect for her health goshdarnit!

5) Some times you might pick the “right now girl” and you have successfully transferred her to LZ Bravo (secondary position). And you might already have her pants down to her ankles while your peepee is out and she is stroking it… something fucked up might happen that will ruin your score: Her period rains on your parade. She changes her mind and doesn’t want to do it. Her mom called her cellphone and granny is in the Emergency room. A fucking earthquake! A comet just hit earth!!! What ever it may be…. You will not be getting any tonight! Yes your dick is hard, and you are suffering since you thought you were getting some and didn’t…. Take it like a man, don’t get mad, don’t show her you are upset. Keep your cool, say “it’s ok babe, I understand. I really hope we can see each other again” get her number, make sure to follow up and see if conditions improve. Some times have to have the will power to pull up your zipper(careful you don’t decapitate your erect penis!). This can turn a tonight-strikeout into a next week-score.


Everything I have posted are my own conclusions, I don’t pretend to be a Playa. I’m just posting this for entertainment purposes.

 

[jubei]

I ususally get cock blocked by the ugly friends, or spend half the night avoiding the uglies that seem to think they have any sort of chance with me. Damn uglies!

 

[Razorguns]

you guys are WAY jumping the gun here.

You haven't concentrated on the most IMPORTANT part..

Is the girl smiing and doing small talk with you cuz she's nice. Or is she SERIOUSLY interested in you and available?

I wish i had a dollar for every girl who was receptive to me and loved talking. Only to find out:

1) She had a bf
2) She had a gf
3) She wasn't interested in dating or anything right now
4) Gets so irritated at every guy she becomes cordial with, immediately tries to "hit" on her
5) She "likes" me and wants me as a great friend!

80% of women you'll meet in a club will wind up fitting that category. Which is why only less than 10% of the women you hit on in life, actually manifests itself in a final poking sometime later (if your'e ugly, decrase that %).

Learn the body language. Ask more probing questions. Let her do the talking and listen to what she says and how she says it. Back off the "flirting" thing a bit until she starts questioning why you're not all over her like the other guys.

Until then, act friendly and nice and coy and cocky (with flair). Don't blab 900 hours all about yourself. Just some tidbits of info, but act a bit mysterious. You want HER asking you questions about you. If she doesn't care about your job. Don't tell her.

If you actually deduct with proper analysis that she is open to you in "other" ways (and available and straight!) -- THEN start using the flirt skills you've mastered.

Not setting up the ideal flirt situation, and just "going for it" is the #1 problem guys have and the reason 99% of them get rejected with a smile anda "That's nice. Well gotta go. Buh bye!" while further fueling their egos. Which is what many chicks come to clubs in the first place.

 

[jerseyart]

If I understand the original question it was "If I think I have a chance to score that night with a girl, how do I close the deal." Did I get that right?

Really, how can you tell you're going to "score" unless you have kissed her? Is that a problem also? Not sarcasm, just curious because it's important to the discussion.

Assuming you've kissed, things look like they click, just ask her back to your place. You don't have to say "let's have sex." That's stupid. She knows why she's going back. But any lame pretense will basically do. Invite her to see your stamp collection (j/k)

Seriously though, if she's interested, she will come. If not, then it wasn't the uncomfortable "So you wanna fuck" nonsense, so you haven't blown a future opportunity.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

eh i figured it out

well, remembered it actually

kiss like its all you ever want to do in your life and so will she

lol my phone is buzzing off the hook

 

[liftshard]

Gee...how to close the deal from a club?

That's a toughie.

I am a bit of a pickup artist in clubs; I used to make out with a different chick every time I went; I would get to the pussy in the club, all manner of crazy stuff. But, I've only ever taken one chick home. A few I've met and screwed at a later date, and more I've gone out with subsequently (one later today in fact), but the success rate in a nightclub is ALWAYS going to be very low.

The reason is because chicks come to clubs with friends. And friends get jealous, don't like you, or are there to "look out for" friends. MOST chicks in clubs are flakes, just remember that. They aren't nice girls by and large and the few that are aren't looking to hook up and have friends who will cockblock the SHIT out of you.

I have been making out w/ chicks where they have their hand on my dick and on the way to escorting them to another room in the joint, the friend materializes out of nowhere and bang, they're gone. But, I am almost always at the club solo. Go with a group if you can, because they can occupy the other bitches while you focus in on the one you want. Guys who have known me there say "man, you are all about the pussy and chicks can smell that a mile away." That may be, but I still did far better than they did, always. But, if you can be "not all about the pussy" and project that, then you will be better off. That's a matter of your tactics. I picked up one chick at a club where I laid off her, just talked and ended up dating and fucking her for a couple months before she took another job in another state. It all depends upon your perception of the girl. Is she the now or never kind or a different animal?

Focus first on picking chicks up and making out with them at the club. If you can get that far, past the kissing and into a little bodypart action, you are pretty much at the "would have sex with you" point. After that, it's a matter of logistics - if a chick has her hand down your pants and you could click your heels and end up somewhere private, you'd be fucking her. But, if I were a girl, no goddamned way I am getting in a car with some flaky player dude I just met at a club. And, that is the HARDEST part. Getting to some booty in a club really isn't that difficult, but getting them to get into your ride and go god knows where with you IS.

If you really want to fuck club chicks, your best bet is to NOT do anything on the first meeting except memorize details about them. Then, if you go often enough, you will run into the same hoes and you can tell them things about themselves. Once, there was this smoking Rican chick and her name was Priscilla and she didn't drink..those were the facts I got talking to her and dancing briefly and being friendly and engaging and making laugh, yada yada (you have to be able to do that). Then, I ran into her again at the same spot a week or two later and I basically recited those details to her. She gave me her #, told me to take it.

Remembering shit about bitches makes them think that you care, you paid attention. To us, it means jack squat, but to them, it's a sign of seriousness or "realness." So, I called her up, she said come over, and only then did I find out that she is a virgin and catholic and will remain so until marriage. I was thinking "bitch, I'm ALREADY married." But, I digress. So, we made out on a park bench and I squeezed her titties a couple times. End of story. But, that approach is far likelier to lead to sex than is one of trying to pick up one chick for that particular night.

Also, it helps if you have coke. Many bitches in clubs do coke and if you can wave some yay in their faces, them and their one friend they brought, you have a shot at some pooty on account of that alone. Aim for chicks that came with one friend; they are easier to separate. Chicks in groups tend to have more support and more fat, ugly friends who are pissed off that they are alone. And they all came in one car and have to go home together, blablabla.

But, I'll tell you, even when you play every card right and you get to Home Base, they STILL may not put out. Never assume you're gonna get jack and play it cool in all circumstances. Sometimes, it's OK to be pushy because they're drunk and you can set them in motion in a particular direction. Other times, it won't work. I took one hot black chick back to her place and she just flat stonewalled me; I couldn't believe it. I asked her, "like, uh, you knew the deal here, right? WTF did you invite me back here for if nothing was gonna happen??" She just said "I don't know you like that." And, that was that. We went out a couple more times but that shit was just barking up a futile tree.

What you have to be is good at sizing up a chick, whether she's a slut or not. A non-slut, you have a LOW probability of ever seeing again. Cuz, women, normal women, have a rule that they would NEVER date a guy they met at a club. Why? Cuz guys at clubs are flakes too! Just like the bitches there are skanks, skeezers, scammers, and scandalous scalawags, a bunch of the guys are too. They lie like shit and are there to try to get laid, and the chicks KNOW it! Witness this very thread where some guy is asking how to get it done at a club. I've run into chicks telling stories of married guys, dudes who lied about every conceivable detail, all kinds of crazy stories, and my thoughts are that you should not be dating guys you met in clubs, you dumb bitch.

However, if this is a nice girl who WOULD date a guy at a club, you want to be perceived as NICE. A genuine person (remember that details thing). Real. Don't forget the things they tell you...memorize them and the shit about their friends. Be happy go lucky party guy, dance with the fat chicks too. This one brazilian, hell, I was keeping the "lookout" for her overly drunk friend for when her and the other chick should go rescue the drunk one from aggressive guys. And, they thought, oh that's so cool, he's watching out for her...but I had already made out with her when they weren't looking. And, I even carried this passed out bitch down 4 flights of stairs and had her vomit a bit on my shoes...but I got a phone number and date out of it from the other one but I think I got ratted on by another guy who had no game but had designs on the same broad.

Above all else, be good looking, well dressed, and wealthy. That goes miles.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

that was a nice post, but i kinda got it sorted

the bubble burst and im a shooting star at the moment

 

[wesley90]

Yeah, but are you getting laid?

 

[GoldenDelicious]

 

[courland]

Gee...how to close the deal from a club?



Above all else, be good looking, well dressed, and wealthy. That goes miles.

i just love advice like this from idiots havent got a clue wtf they r talking about lol. wot an ass