GHB precursor 1,4-Butanediol

[el cubano]

I have some on the way and will let you know how it is after I take some. I use to use GHB and loved it.

 

[jboldman]

I think the doc is wrong here, 1,4 is broken down in the same metabolic pathway as alcohol, gbl and ghb are different pathways, that is why I recommend staying away from 1,4 and stick to gbl/ghb if you really must use the stuff.

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Be forwarned.. My friend developed CHRONIC PANCREATITIS from drinking GBL almost everyday for over 2 years.. he was not a drinker of alcohol (since he had his G) When he was taken to the hospital they asked him if he drank alcohol, he said no, told them that he drank GBL reguarly.. His doc concluded that his pancreatits was caused by the GBL - the body uses the same enzyme to break down GBL as it does alcohol.. as a matter a fact they claim that it took 100x more of the enzyme to break it down causing excessive stress on the pancreas, which caused a pancreatitis.. and that my friends if NOT something you want to live with.

Everyone thinks out kidneys and liver, but don't forget there are lots of other organs in your body..

Gman

 

[jboldman]

hmm, another budding chemist

who can tell the relative purity of different compounds by there taste!

the 1,4 I get is almost tastless. the GHB and GBL floating around out there is enough to make you puke from it's horrible taste. you tell me what one you think has more impurities?
firstenrgy

 

[Daeo]

Re: hmm, another budding chemist

who can tell the relative purity of different compounds by there taste!

Exactly. And I really don't know what he's talking about either. 1,4 tastes is one of the foulest things I've had the misfortune to taste. The GHB I get on the other hand has virtually no taste to it besides a slightly salty flavor...

 

[Daeo]

Daeo,
Much props to you re: your personal knowledge of G. I've read some really good posts from you.

Now about 1,4 - I get blood work done about 4 times a year. I'm almost exclusively taking 1,4 with a <99.7% assay (I didn't have it tested, it is processed by legit chemical co.). At any rate, my blood work is clean as a whistle.

I do notice some really strong spins that accompany 1,4 that don't happen wth GHB or GBL. I don't have an explaination nor do I have a theory. But I take for the spins. I don't drink so a guy has to have something
Personally I don't like GBL, for me it makes me really sedate.

So, bottom line, I respectfully disagree with avoiding 1,4.

FH

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I must give you credit FH. It's good to see someone who keeps up on themself. I've used 1,4 on occasion before, but prefer GHB. I really don't like the spins and hate puking But to each his own. I think internal problems occur when using either 1,4 or GHB for prolonged periods of time. Any way you look at it be careful meatheads. Use that head for something more than growing hair on...

 

[Grainger]

(An example of what I am talking about.....)

jboldman -

I would be REALLY interested in hearing the metabolic pathways that you are talking about?!? BE SPECIFIC!


I have money that says you can't....you are simply restating some shit that read on the internet or heard from a friend. you say....

----quote----
"1,4 is broken down in the same metabolic pathway as alcohol, gbl and ghb are different pathways"
--- end quote----

To most people on the board, it might sound like you know what you are talking about.....that same bullshit will be repeated again and it is wrong! That is how so much misinformation has been posted about GHB.

Just like most poeple that don't know shit about nutrition will tell you that it takes weeks to digest red meat and that it just sits in your stomach! PURE BULLSHIT but most people think it.

Hey have a nice day

 

[caseyviator]

all i can say

is i hope gbl is not bad for you in the long run...................but hell,it seems like everything at one time or another causes cancer........well atleast i dont smoke cig,i mean that is basically a death sentence.............they have pretty much proved that

 

[firstenrgy]

Re: Re: hmm, another budding chemist

Exactly. And I really don't know what he's talking about either. 1,4 tastes is one of the foulest things I've had the misfortune to taste. The GHB I get on the other hand has virtually no taste to it besides a slightly salty flavor...

Unreal! Do you really know what is being sold to people? If you have GHB that is almost tastless than you are fortunate. Have you tried the 1,4 we are speaking of? Fill me in if I am missing something. As you can see I read a lot more than I post. I never talk crap or flame. If you can give me SOLID evidence that the 1,4 I'm taking is worse for me than the GHB that is floating around, I would gladly eat my words. There are so many guys on this board that have information that I can only dream to have. Tell me what's up guys???
firstenrgy

 

[jboldman]

Tell you what Grainger

I'll go back and try to dig out my references and you do the same! Let's see which of us is wrong. You DO have references or are you spouting soemthing that you heard somewhere like some college freshman with nothing better to do. How much money ecxactly do you have that says I can not btw?????

(An example of what I am talking about.....)

jboldman -

I would be REALLY interested in hearing the metabolic pathways that you are talking about?!? BE SPECIFIC!


I have money that says you can't....you are simply restating some shit that read on the internet or heard from a friend. you say....

----quote----
"1,4 is broken down in the same metabolic pathway as alcohol, gbl and ghb are different pathways"
--- end quote----

To most people on the board, it might sound like you know what you are talking about.....that same bullshit will be repeated again and it is wrong! That is how so much misinformation has been posted about GHB.

Just like most poeple that don't know shit about nutrition will tell you that it takes weeks to digest red meat and that it just sits in your stomach! PURE BULLSHIT but most people think it.

Hey have a nice day

 

[drrman]

like i said first energy, i am speaking from observations and personal experimentation only, i have taken every precursor under the sun and have made more gallons of GHB than most have ever seen. I just know that for the month i tried some 1,4 i hated it, i felt like shit more and didn't get any of the benefits like GHB. I'll be honest, i don't have a clue what enzymes break down what, but i know how i feel on different substances, and 1,4 didn't do much for me at all. I just don't see why everyone is so wanting this 1,4 shit when GBL is as easy to find as steroids, and the making of real GHB is actually simple??