Fuck this diet shit!!

[Outtlaw]

Man, fuck this diet shit. I was tryin to do things a different way for a change. I was trying to do a clean bulker I guess you'd call it, but forget that. No more chicken, brown rice, and egg whites for me. Im going back to the old way I used to do things. Pounds of beef, pasta, chicken, etc. to pack back on the mass. You guys can have that diet crap.

 

[satchboogie]

youre clearly frustrated..
understandable..
but dont get outta control..

go grub a double double and a pint of beer..
then reevaluate your options..

 

[777-9311]

not being a jerk but basically you love to eat like a pig or what?

 

[UA_Iron]

I'm willing to bet 90% of people here dont eat like that.

They'll post their 'ideal' diet, or what someone else told them...but I'm the follow-through is laughable.

Bulking on those foods makes bulking that much harder.

 

[x_con]

I'm willing to bet 90% of people here dont eat like that.

They'll post their 'ideal' diet, or what someone else told them...but I'm the follow-through is laughable.

Bulking on those foods makes bulking that much harder.

Im with you, its hard as hell to eat 5000 cal / day of chicken brests, egg whites, and brown rice. I can only take so much.

 

[Outtlaw]

not being a jerk but basically you love to eat like a pig or what?

Eating beef, pasta, and chicken is eating like a pig??

 

[Beachboy6294]

not being a jerk but basically you love to eat like a pig or what?

What??? How is that eating like a pig? I hope your joking!

 

[nuthnbutfords]

Nothing is more anabolic than food. So eat that shit up...Micky D's...Hardees...fucking go nuts brotha!!! I do.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Hell, I live off Beef, Pasta, Potatoes, Rice, whole eggs ,Chicken ect...when trying to pack on the mass. Thats what it's all about! Get er done bro

M18

 

[BigCracker]

Getting ripped isn't for everybody-especially guys that base a lot of their self worth on the amount of weight they throw around in the gym. Imagine being able to bench press 405 for 10 reps then dieting for a show and barely being able to get 315 for 8 reps a few months later. That's what happens to me going from off season-to contest shape. It's a mind fuck, but I just consider it a trade off for vascularity and definition. The worst part is the midpoint where you've lost strength, but aren't that shredded. Once you get past that point it's not so bad. If you think about it, strength really doesn't matter much. From a BB perspective it's better to appear strong and be weak than be strong and appear to be fat/less muscular. If you workout to get attention from chicks, strength is even less importatnt. When's the last time you heard a girl say that she only dates guys that bench press 350+??? Most girl's will be attracted to a skinny guy with abs as opposed to a guy that doesn't have abs but can bench press a house. Strength impresses guys-not girls. So unless you're a cage fighter, strong man competitor, etc, being strong really serves no useful purpose other than impressing yourself and/or dudes in the gym. Personally, if given the choice I'd rather impress chicks-but then again I don't have issues with my masculinity either. Besides, muscle has memory-you can always pig out and get your strength back in time. Not everyone is mentally strong enough to deal with this-which is why a lot of big guys never compete in BB.


If I'm not dieting, I'll eat still eat junk. I just make sure that I get my quality calories in first so I'm not replacing them with junk. For instance, if it's 7PM and I've already consumed 250 grams of protien that day, I'll feel no guilt for eating a couple BK Whoppers. However, eating BK Whoppers for lunch after only consuming 100 grams of protien that day, it's more difficult to choke down a couple chicken breasts, a can of tuna, and a dozen egg whites throughout the rest of the day. I still avoid shit calories completely-french fries, chips, sugar-soda, etc

 

[kraze]

big cracker makes a good point, most of which i follow/believe. wonder what you did for all the neg. karma ;x

 

[ryan04]

I hear ya bro. I eat steak, lean beef, weight gainer shakes and wash it all down with a gallon of skim milk a day. As long as your not living off double quarter pounders from mcdonalds and triple stacks from Wendy's, you'll be allright. Save the lean dieting for cutting.

 

[maldorf]

I just finished a cutting cycle, 10 weeks, and went from 245 lbs down to 215 lbs. I lost over 3 inches off the waist,but never had bodyfat levels tested. The strength on most of my lifts didnt really go down too much, so that would tell me I did not lose much muscle. For instance, at 245 lbs I was able to squat 405 for 10 reps, but now can get 7 reps at 215 lbs bodyweight. I really feel healthier and look alot better now, and I was not what you would consider fat before. I plan on bulking up some now, but would like to keep the bodyfat fairly close to what it is now. I have already added about 60 grams of protein and 100 grams of carbs and the fat is still coming off during pct. I am wondering if my body has become more efficient at burning fat now for energy.

 

[Anybody]

Personally I gave up on receiving any kind of gratification whatsoever from eating. I picked up on a vice that doesn't affect my body to make up for it.

 

[rocksolid215]

I tried shedding a few extra pounds doing the no carb thing. It started to work, but I was sick of feeling "starved" all the time. Anything that's good for you doesn't fill you up.

That's why I'm doing Fina.

 

[Joe Stenson]

Man, fuck this diet shit. I was tryin to do things a different way for a change. I was trying to do a clean bulker I guess you'd call it, but forget that. No more chicken, brown rice, and egg whites for me. Im going back to the old way I used to do things. Pounds of beef, pasta, chicken, etc. to pack back on the mass. You guys can have that diet crap.

I would still call beef, pasta, and chicken clean foods.

When you start talking about crap, you're looking at things like baked goods, chips, pop, etc....things with basically zero nutritional value.

And that being said, calories matter more than anything. Eat 5000 calories of chicken, brown rice, and egg whites and you'll end up fatter than eating 3500 calories of pizza and donuts.

 

[pda321]

when i'm itching for "crap" foods i basically synthesize nutritionally valuable alternatives. so let's say i'm craving carbs and sweet things...then i'll bust out some cottage cheese, throw some cinnamin (how the fuck to u spell that?) and splenda, some straight bran for texture, mix it up, and as long as it's chilly it goes down like ice cream! and it's just protein with some fat...no shitty sugar.

of course, i'll probably die of cancer from all the artificial sweeteners, but at least i'll die with a low body fat percentage!

 

[gjohnson5]

Man, fuck this diet shit. I was tryin to do things a different way for a change. I was trying to do a clean bulker I guess you'd call it, but forget that. No more chicken, brown rice, and egg whites for me. Im going back to the old way I used to do things. Pounds of beef, pasta, chicken, etc. to pack back on the mass. You guys can have that diet crap.

fat = 9 calories
I've found that cleanly bulking should include higher dosages of fat so they can be converted to ketones by mitochondria.

coconut milk , sesame seeds (sesamax from anafit) , olive oil , peanut , cashew , macadamia , sunflower and safflower are good sources of fat that will have positive results on cholesterol

if bulking , rices, pasta, breads are ok but people with slower metabolism will have the same effect as if eating junk food. Most all bread in the US has high fructose corn sweetener which is nothing but a preservative and will make you fat. In general I think the American diet which includes alof of carbs is the reason Americans are fatter and more out of shape then most other cultures such as Central America and Pacific Islands , where coconut is a staple food

 

[Bruce]

i think calling outlaw a pig for wanting to eat beef and pasta a bit ridiculous. the man is clearly frustrated force feeding dry chicken and brown rice. i can eat krispy kremes and stay lean so i can't feel your pain but i can tell you that it sounds like you are better off eating what you want to bulk, and then doing a short cutter with the restricted diet

 

[gjohnson5]

i think calling outlaw a pig for wanting to eat beef and pasta a bit ridiculous. the man is clearly frustrated force feeding dry chicken and brown rice. i can eat krispy kremes and stay lean so i can't feel your pain but i can tell you that it sounds like you are better off eating what you want to bulk, and then doing a short cutter with the restricted diet

I partially agree with bruce on this one. Krispy kreme is not clean I don't care who you are

pasta as ok , I would however do whole wheat pasta for added protein and slower digesting carb then white flour pasta assuming you can do wheat/gluten

glucorrel R is your friend , so If doing faster digesting carbs such as milk , white rice , white flour pasta , white flour bread , use the r+ala

 

[Bruce]

i never said it was clean homey, just saying i can get away with it so i by no means see beef and pasta as cheating

 

[wayneboard1]

not being a jerk but basically you love to eat like a pig or what?

WTF? Looks like someone needs to take a look at the diet forum.

 

[Outtlaw]

Well dont get it twisted, Im not gonna go crazy here. Im not gonna be eating krispy kremes, potatoe chips, and all that junk food. Beef, pastas, rice, I usually always stick to whole wheat bread and soy milk. But I will be eating pizza again, and I dont care if I have white rice or the regular processed pasta. My metabolism is high enough to handle that stuff. As long as Im not at the Mcdonalds or BK eating that crap I'll be fine. I'll stick to my good ol home cooking and let the mass come naturally.

 

[Demonix]

I can't force myself to bulk on chicken breasts and brown rice either.

Don't let it get out of control. And just do some cutting after pct.

 

[paridhm]

I have a very fast metabolism, so as long as I don't eat very high carb meals shortly before bed, I'm ok. The types off food and at what time all depends on your metabolism. Some guys can eat a bowl of ice cream and gain 3 lbs. I don't have that problem.

 

[jc1908]

i think calling outlaw a pig for wanting to eat beef and pasta a bit ridiculous. the man is clearly frustrated force feeding dry chicken and brown rice. i can eat krispy kremes and stay lean so i can't feel your pain but i can tell you that it sounds like you are better off eating what you want to bulk, and then doing a short cutter with the restricted diet

I love to eat like a pig..if i'm having trouble getting my cals. i'll ponde down a few dbl cheeseburgers, i don't mind the carbs but just try to not eat them at nite. no sugar though

 

[thelion2005]

Ahhhh ... the good ol' days of pizza, beer, steak, pie ....
Lifting heavy ...
and taking dbol ....
Looking like a gorilla!

 

[lacoste]

Everyone's different, so just do what works for ya..seems like everyone has got something figured out. I have a really slow metabolism. So i really have to stick with slow digesting carbs but for some reason high fat meats dont really make me gain much bodyfat. This time im trying to eat relatively clean. I really want to put on some quality size and not have a lot of hard work cut out for me in the spring.