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Eringobraugh
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UA_Iron said:
Damn decimal points, I dont see how that is even remotely possible for him to get a dui with .01%
Damn decimal points, I dont see how that is even remotely possible for him to get a dui with .01%
Eringobraugh
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daisyduke6 said:
lol, thanks Daisy
you didnt have to do that hahaha!! Youre a sweetheart!~daisyduke6 said:
The point is, the laws in place did not prevent this tragedy, and as a result of over-politicization of something, hundreds of thousands are harmed for not doing anything.
What these laws do is excessively punish minor offenders without changing behavior. Most DUI fatalities, as I pointed out in the last post, are caused by the extremely drunk driver. This driver usually drinks to severe impairment on a regular basis, to the point that punishment is not going to change his behavior.
This is why the AMA recommended the .15 threshold. The .08 is like three or four drinks; that person in not remotely impaired 99% of the time. Even NHTSA misrepresents the data, calling an "alcohol-related fatality" a fatality in which anyone involved had a BAC of .02 or higher. In other words, if a designated driver is driving three people home and is struck by a truck, killing all 4, that's 4 alcohol related fatalities. Statistical lies to support an agenda.
By any real metric, speeding kills many many more than DUI.
The end result illustrates the worthlessness of these policies:
(1) Fatalities are HIGHER now than they were in the years preceding DUI laws of any kind.
(2) Hundreds of thousands have DUIs on their record.
If (2) is not impacting (1), then the laws are just plain stupid....just like it would be stupid to ban skyscrapers because one moron dropped a wrench.
Again, I am truly sorry for your loss. But punishing the innocent makes things worse, not better.
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Spartacus
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yeah,but I think more like .125UA_Iron said:
for a 200lb guy each drink equates to about .02
factor in a metabolization rate of a drink per hour
and our thereotical drinker would be .125
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UA_Iron
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4everhung said:
you're probably closer - I just corrected his decimal point without looking it up.
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Spartacus
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in my 12 years as a morticianMattTheSkywalker said:
they call me when they're dead at the scene
I've pulled perhaps 50-60 people from wrecks
not a single person killed by a drunk
but about 2 dozen either for sure had been drinking,and some suspected
I draw blood from the victims for forensics
I think I read once that 10% of alcohol related fatalities are an innocent
Daisy_
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Okay, well you continue to drink and drive all you want. But when you kill someone, and get put in jail for life, I would hope. Have a nice life.
Isnt it just much easier to pick up a phone and call a cab? Or must you insist on telling yourself, "im okay to drive" Or what if a drunk hits you and puts you in a wheel chair for the rest of your life? Will you be saying the same thing? and quoting all of these bogus statistics? Nothing is going to change my mind on this subject.
You are stating your thoughts and opinions, and I am merely doing the same we obviously dont agree so I will walk one way, and you walk the other. I am done with this post.
Eringobraugh
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80% of the drinking population admit to driving after drinking
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Spartacus
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so many other factors should be weighed into intoxication levels than a mere recording of BAC
biologically I read once that as a person consumes alcohol over the years
the meninges(the membranes surrounding the brain)become less permeable to alcohol over time
hence people that have more experince drinking alcohol have more tolerance
at least this is a biological basis for tolerance
I think other factors such as presence of mind etc factor into "tolerance"
you can't expect an 18 year old consuming alcohol for the first time at .08 and a 50 year old man who has been drinking for 30 years at .08 to be similarily intoxicated
biologically I read once that as a person consumes alcohol over the years
the meninges(the membranes surrounding the brain)become less permeable to alcohol over time
hence people that have more experince drinking alcohol have more tolerance
at least this is a biological basis for tolerance
I think other factors such as presence of mind etc factor into "tolerance"
you can't expect an 18 year old consuming alcohol for the first time at .08 and a 50 year old man who has been drinking for 30 years at .08 to be similarily intoxicated
