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For the RyanH Types

chesty said:

We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,
And the 'unwed daddy', our Senior King.
It's "inappropriate" to teach right from wrong,
We're taught that such "judgments" do not belong.

Wow, this guy is a bit racist...
I guess he missed the bible passage that says that he should not pass judgement on others...lol

We can get our condoms and birth controls,
Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles.
But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.

So, now being an American Indian is seen as secondary and open to ridicule?

BTW- I read this piece of art a while ago. This is just a piece of right wing material written to anger right wing persons.
 
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2Thick said:


BTW- I read this piece of art a while ago. This is just a piece of right wing material written to anger right wing persons.

it looks like it also angers the left as well.
 
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2Thick said:


Well if I may represent the 'left' for a moment, I wil say that it does not anger me. Rather, it just reminds me why I do not travel to the bible belt very often.

no offense, but i wasn't talking to you.
im not a worldly man, though i have been to a few different countries, and ive lived on both coast. i find no difference in peoples mentality.
 
The kid's "prayer" is a pile of crap. It depends on the completely erroneous argument that religion can't be taught in school. It is certainly as acceptable to study Christianity in the way other religions are studied. The separation of church and state in public education is to insure that one religion is not PRACTICED so that children raised in other faiths are not marginalized.

There is a huge difference between TEACHING the history and dogma of religions and PRACTICING relgion at the front of the classroom. The failure to make such distinctions is typical of people who write "prayers" like the young propagandist in Arizona.
 
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in my school muslims were not allowed to congregate to pray. christians, hindu's, jews, shintoists etc were. this was due to the school being terrifed of them.

i believe any person has the right to autonomy as a being. if he wishes to pray, assuming circumstances allow it at the time, he/she should be allowed. using this same train of thought, someone who does not wish to pray for whatever reason should not be forced to by whatever means are at the disposal of those who wish to make him pray.

btw a while ago it said here in the national curriculum that while religions of the major faiths should be examined in religious eductaion, christianity should be 'emphasised'. this basicall meant R.E. was not R.E. ....
 
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that is awesome man,they should bring the lord prayer back,maybe it will instil decency in some of these punk kids today
 
musclebrains said:
The kid's "prayer" is a pile of crap. It depends on the completely erroneous argument that religion can't be taught in school. It is certainly as acceptable to study Christianity in the way other religions are studied. The separation of church and state in public education is to insure that one religion is not PRACTICED so that children raised in other faiths are not marginalized.

There is a huge difference between TEACHING the history and dogma of religions and PRACTICING relgion at the front of the classroom. The failure to make such distinctions is typical of people who write "prayers" like the young propagandist in Arizona.

Awesome post!!! My thoughts exactly!
 
The Canadian Oak said:
that is awesome man,they should bring the lord prayer back,maybe it will instil decency in some of these punk kids today

Oak:

Why should they enforce only catholicism based religions on ALL students in public schools? What if I happened to be buddist? Would I still have to recite 'the lord's prayer?.'

To the rest of you 'good christians:'

How exactly are you suggesting Jesus be brought 'back' into schools?

Prayer in classrooms? What prayers?

What if...the popular religion was......*gasp* ISLAM, and your little christian was forced to pray to allah every morning in school.

I bet you'd be screaming seperation of church and state then wouldn't ya?
 
Religion cannot be taught in the public school systems period. You cannot say a prayer, you cannot hold after school groups that are religiously oriented, etc.

And please don't subscribed to me that it is a piece of right wing shit. I am not religious, don't believe in god, nor do subscribed to the existence of any supreme deity.

But, I will tell you that it is just a freedom that has been taken away that was one of the reasons why we fought the Revolutionary war. And lo and behold some communist, leftist, religion hater comes along and gets the supreme court to state that having religion in school violates the separation of church and state. Freedom lost.
 
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