First Cycle and I Have Scary Lab Results

[mrteacher]

I had Lab work done for the first time and I need some advice

Stats:
Age 38
Height 6'3"
Weight 205
Body Fat 18% (this is an educated guess)
Sex Male
Ethnicity Caucasian

Here is where I am at. I have been active and lifting for many years. I have a good base of muscle but never pushed myself into the next level. My good friend has been on gear and looks great so I had him hook me up for my first cycle....which is

Test E 500 each week

I am currently on my 5th week. I am Planning on going 10 or 12.
I am not taking an AI....at least until I got my labwork back.
I am attaching my lab work here. I need a good analysis of this.

1. I have aromasin to take for the very high estroidil.How much should I take?
2. My LH and FSH levels are low. Should I be concerned?
3. I believe my other levels are high because I get PIP very bad and maybe the gear I am on is not the best mix, any ideas?

Most Notable Results Below/Full results attached as image
1.Testosterone >1500
2. Estradiol 158.6
3. LH 0.1
4. FSH >0.2
5. WBC 15.1

 

[ceo]

Start taking that aromasin and get that estradiol level down between 15-20. I'd start at 25mg ED.

 

[jcnuts]

Start the Aromisin immediately cause anything over 42 is high and yours is 4 times that. As far as the LH don't worry about cause it's going to stay low on cycle. Any start your AI and have bloods done again in a few weeks.

~ JohnyCoolNuts ~

 

[Zyglamail]

We see posts like this daily where people are on decent doses of AAS and arent running an anti-e and then they wonder why they get gyno or have high E.

Why arent people running an anti-E when they cycle?

LH and FSH are low because your test is high, that should be expected.

Rest of the stuff could be from fighting off a cold or infection, maybe from contaiminated gear, its really anyone's guess.

 

[stevesmi]

your LH and FSH are supposed to go to 0. did you think your body magically doesn't get suppressed on cycle?

also I do not believe with your stats you have a proper base to be using steroids or knowledge. you need to run an AI, your E is too high as has been said..

your 'friend' let you down here, just cause he looks good and has experience doesn't mean he knows what he is doing. see this type of thing all the time

 

[Jbranken]

At least this guy is getting bloods done. Props for that OP. Most guys are too damn lazy

 

[mrteacher]

Thank you for the replies. I started the aromasin 15 seconds after I saw my labs. I think dosing 25mg ed should do the trick.
Also, since this is my first cylce it was my decision to not start an AI. I really wanted to see how my body reacted before adding anthing else to the cycle. (I never thought that my E2 would be this high though)
Your right that people who dont have blood tests or take AI's are crazy. With my very high E2 I have had no obvious symptoms. No acne, No soft tissue in chest, no itchy puffy nipples. The only symptom that I recognise are that my sex drive never changed and it is has become harder to achieve orgasm.

So is 25ed good or should adjust it?
Also how long does it take for my estrogen to balance out at this dosage?

I will never start a cycle without an AI again.

 

[stevesmi]

At least this guy is getting bloods done. Props for that OP. Most guys are too damn lazy

i would say 99% don't get bloodwork done or complain its too expensive..

so yes props to him. hopefully he learns

 

[Zyglamail]

Also This is my first cylce and I really wanted to see how my body reacted before adding anthing else to the cycle.

Props for getting labs done, it was a very smart thing to do.

That being said however its a guarantee that 500mg/wk of test will elevate E above the normal range unless you have some seriously jacked up system.

So, knowing it will skyrocket E the best approach would be to start a generally accepted dose of AI at start of cycle, THEN get labs done and adjust dosage accordingly.

Your method of seeing what happens first is a little silly because everyone knows it will jack your E.

What would you say if you walked into the docs office for a vasectomy and the doc had ya lay on the table and busted out his scalpel without giving you any local anesthesia?

Youd be like WTF dude wheres my Novocain/Lidocaine!

Then the doc replies with, well we know it may sting a bit but lets see how you handle it before we give you anything.

Pretty silly isnt it? There is years and years of data on how much Novocain/Lidocaine so its used right away and adjusted accordingly if more is needed.

The same applies to AAS use. Anyone here with any experience could have told you that you WILL need an AI on your AAS dose if you wanted to be safe.

 

[mrteacher]

I absolutely agree with you, but I must say there is so much misinformation about AI's on the forums. I have read countless threads where the advice is to only take AI's if you see symptoms. I made my best educated decision and well....it was wrong. Hopefully no damage done and I get my cycle dialed in.

Thanks for all the advice