first cycle advice!!primobolan or testo?

[Themachine01]

My 1st cycle was 250mg/wk and i gained around 15lbs and kept 10. If I could do it all over again, I would have went with 500mg/wk. 500mg/wk is still a light dosage and you should react very well to it since its your first cycle. Some will agree with me here, and others have there own opinions.

 

[buffdawg10]

what do u think about this!

for bulkin
10 weeks test cypi 400mg/w
10weeks deca 400mg/w
1-6w d-bol 30mg

for cuttin

12w-400mg primo
16w-100mg testo propi eod
winstrol 13-16 50mg eod

Don't waste your money on sus, you can get enanthate test 250 and it will work just as good. I would go with the first one, and up the dose to 500mg. of test per week, just make sure you do nolvadex/liquidex and get clomid for the end of your cycle.

 

[Themachine01]

Don't waste your money on sus

please explain why sus is a waste of money???

 

[Numberfive]

Machine, can you be specific as to why you recommend sus for first cycles??

I'm about to start my first and can't decide between Nile sust and Schering Primotestin (enanthate). Which ever I do will be 500mg per wk.

Thanks in advance

 

[FatChops]

Hey man I did a sus only cycle and gained 32 lbs and kept 25lbs. I would do 750mg the first wk then 500mg the rest of the way. It work great for me. Don't want to get outta hand on your first one. I am the same age as you, so I to want to compete some day.

Chops

 

[buffdawg10]

The reason I say sus is a waste of money is not because sus. is not good, it is just that you can get test 250, and basically get the same results. Test is test, you may have different esters in sus. to make the components release at different times, but, in my opinion sus. is really not much better than regular test 250. You can get just as good results getting Testoviron 250.

 

[Themachine01]

The reason I say sus is a waste of money is not because sus. is not good, it is just that you can get test 250, and basically get the same results. Test is test.

with what your saying here, you will get the same results, test is test, but sus is a waste of money? this doesnt make any sense. If someone can get sus or omnas cheaper than a single test, then how is it wasting your money? I have used sus alone and I have used enanthate alone with similar results, I agree with you there, but I still want to know why you are saying sus is a waste of money.

 

[serge]

if this is the first cycle, you can make nice gains from just running 500mg/test/week, you can add 300mg/deca or eq and gains will be nothing short of amazing

 

[FatChops]

The reason I say sus is a waste of money is not because sus. is not good, it is just that you can get test 250, and basically get the same results. Test is test, you may have different esters in sus. to make the components release at different times, but, in my opinion sus. is really not much better than regular test 250. You can get just as good results getting Testoviron 250.

Good point

 

[skinny1]

WHY DOES SUST SUCK....thats easy figure out. Theres 4 esters of test in sust..im not going into the details..but 2 are short acting..2 are longer. At 500 mg aweek...shot twice...Its takes quite a long time to build up usable tests...and its only about 300 usable mg aweek. Unless you shoot an amp every day for the first week or two...those short acting tests are worthless. Sust was made in the real world to be shot once a month...Thats for people who have low test levels..the tests work together ...over a months time..to help boost a low test level without freaking the bodys natural production out. IM NOT SAYING YOU CANT GROW OFF SUST....BUT...without frontloading...its definately better to do a single ester test...enanthate..cyp...etc. It takes a few weeks for those to kick in...but you will have a higher usable level at 500 mgs a week....peace