EQ and 1-test

[OVRTrainer]

PA...

If they used the free steroids instead of the esters than maybe I could say that. But the esters are an unknown and they may even make the product worse by ruining the solubility. I made a sample of 1-test EC ester and its solubility properties were very poor

Well other than it being extremely uncomfortable, would it be worth it to try powdered 1-Test in capsule orally, or would you anticipate it being less bioavailable than 1-AD. Thanks.

 

[notpuff]

Re: PA...

Well other than it being extremely uncomfortable, would it be worth it to try powdered 1-Test in capsule orally, or would you anticipate it being less bioavailable than 1-AD. Thanks.

hey no pain no gain

 

[pa1ad]

Re: PA...

Well other than it being extremely uncomfortable, would it be worth it to try powdered 1-Test in capsule orally, or would you anticipate it being less bioavailable than 1-AD. Thanks.

It should be just as bioavailable. I would take it with alot of food, and drink plenty of water too

 

[fhg43]

then maybe im just super sensitive because last year when i used androspray i just sprayed 8-12 sprays once a day on my arms and i got pretty good results

Are gains site specific w/transdermals? Meaning, if I apply Androspray to my legs and do a full body workout (working all body parts equally) will I notice better gains in my legs (since thats where the transdermal was applied)? Or do you absorb the substance and it works its way into your bloodstream and it is used throughout the body?

FHG

 

[OVRTrainer]

Thank you PA...

Thank you for your honesty. It seems that everyone is under the impression that you would need a transdermal. Anyway, I bet you're sitting around laughing at us everyday, watching us spend rediculous amounts of money on all these different delivery systems that are essentially unnecessary. Well when the hammer drops, I hope all these other companies didn't screw it up for you and the rest of us. I don't see why the FDA would mess with 1-AD, but I hope it outlives this fiasco. It's the most effective prohormone to date. Please keep 'em coming! Thanks.

 

[pa1ad]

Are gains site specific w/transdermals? Meaning, if I apply Androspray to my legs and do a full body workout (working all body parts equally) will I notice better gains in my legs (since thats where the transdermal was applied)? Or do you absorb the substance and it works its way into your bloodstream and it is used throughout the body?

FHG

The latter

 

[pa1ad]

Re: Thank you PA...

Thank you for your honesty. It seems that everyone is under the impression that you would need a transdermal. Anyway, I bet you're sitting around laughing at us everyday, watching us spend rediculous amounts of money on all these different delivery systems that are essentially unnecessary. Well when the hammer drops, I hope all these other companies didn't screw it up for you and the rest of us. I don't see why the FDA would mess with 1-AD, but I hope it outlives this fiasco. It's the most effective prohormone to date. Please keep 'em coming! Thanks.

I have been field testing a 1-AD topical spray, and while it is effective it does not seem to be as potent as the orals. I may still market it though, for the reason that it would give the few people who cannot tolerate the orals a chance to still use it

 

[OVRTrainer]

Re: Re: Thank you PA...

I have been field testing a 1-AD topical spray, and while it is effective it does not seem to be as potent as the orals. I may still market it though, for the reason that it would give the few people who cannot tolerate the orals a chance to still use it

Sounds like a good plan. If it can be made as potent as the oral, that would surely alleviate the side-effects of burning pee and stomach discomfort. I had neither of those but I know that reports of the potential for these has deterred some potential users.

What else you got?

 

[pa1ad]

Re: Re: Re: Thank you PA...

Sounds like a good plan. If it can be made as potent as the oral, that would surely alleviate the side-effects of burning pee and stomach discomfort. I had neither of those but I know that reports of the potential for these has deterred some potential users.

What else you got?

It would relieve stomach discomfort but the urine problem could still be an issue. It collects in your urine no matter what way it got into your bloodstream in the first place

I am working on other stuff, but I do things from scratch myself and unfortunately only a few things that i attempt are successful. Someone has to be the first to do things so others can steal them!!

 

[OVRTrainer]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Thank you PA...

It would relieve stomach discomfort but the urine problem could still be an issue. It collects in your urine no matter what way it got into your bloodstream in the first place

I am working on other stuff, but I do things from scratch myself and unfortunately only a few things that i attempt are successful. Someone has to be the first to do things so others can steal them!!

LOL. I know it's not really funny though. In your defense, the Biotest guys really screwed you. They bashed 1-AD, then they come out with a product that's got the active hormone in it. This is the same product that they claimed to be working on for the last couple of years. Then poof, they scratch their original plans and incorporate 1-Test, or A1E, ha ha.

Pat, why did you not try and patent 1-Test in it's different delivery methods? I assume you cannot patent a hormone, but I know the Biotest guys have patented their delivery method. In fact, I don't understand how these other "esterfied" and "ether" products can pass the 'unobviousness' test for patentability.