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Does this make you feel any better about the Wallstreet bailout? $50BIL Scam!

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Bernard Madoff arrested over alleged $50 billion fraud - Yahoo! News

Bernard Madoff arrested over alleged $50 billion fraud





NEW YORK (Reuters) – Bernard Madoff, a quiet force on Wall Street for decades, was arrested and charged on Thursday with allegedly running a $50 billion Ponzi scheme in what may rank among the biggest fraud cases ever.

The former chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market is best known as the founder of Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC, the closely-held market-making firm he launched in 1960. But he also ran a hedge fund that U.S. prosecutors said racked up $50 billion of fraudulent losses.

Madoff told senior employees of his firm on Wednesday that "it's all just one big lie" and that it was "basically, a giant Ponzi scheme," with estimated investor losses of about $50 billion, according to the U.S. Attorney's criminal complaint against him.

A Ponzi scheme is a swindle offering unusually high returns, with early investors paid off with money from later investors.

On Thursday, two agents for the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation entered Madoff's New York apartment.

"There is no innocent explanation," Madoff said, according to the criminal complaint. He told the agents that it was all his fault, and that he "paid investors with money that wasn't there," according to the complaint.

The $50 billion allegedly lost would make the hedge fund one of the biggest frauds in history. When former energy trading giant Enron filed for bankruptcy in 2001, one of the largest at the time, it had $63.4 billion in assets.

U.S. prosecutors charged Madoff, 70, with a single count of securities fraud. They said he faces up to 20 years in prison and a fine of up to $5 million.

The Securities and Exchange Commission filed separate civil charges against Madoff.

"Our complaint alleges a stunning fraud -- both in terms of scope and duration," said Scott Friestad, the SEC's deputy enforcer. "We are moving quickly and decisively to stop the scheme and protect the remaining assets for investors."

Dan Horwitz, Madoff's lawyer, told reporters outside a downtown Manhattan courtroom where he was charged, "Bernard Madoff is a longstanding leader in the financial services industry. We will fight to get through this unfortunate set of events."

A shaken Madoff stared at the ground as reporters peppered him with questions. He was released after posting a $10 million bond secured by his Manhattan apartment.

Authorities, citing a document filed by Madoff with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission on January 7, 2008, said Madoff's investment advisory business served between 11 and 25 clients and had a total of about $17.1 billion in assets under management. Those clients may have included other funds that in turn had many investors.

The SEC said it appeared that virtually all of the assets of his hedge fund business were missing.

CONSISTENT RETURNS

An investor in the hedge fund said it generated consistent returns, which was part of the attraction. Since 2004, annual returns averaged around 8 percent and ranged from 7.3 percent to 9 percent, but last decade returns were typically in the low-double digits, the investor said.

The fund told investors it followed a "split strike conversion" strategy, which entailed owning stock and buying and selling options to limit downside risk, said the investor, who requested anonymity.

Jon Najarian, an acquaintance of Madoff who has traded options for decades, said "Many of us questioned how that strategy could generate those kinds of returns so consistently."

Najarian, co-founder of optionmonster.com, once tried to buy what was then the Cincinnati Stock Exchange when Madoff was a major seatholder on the exchange. Najarian met with Madoff, who rejected his bid.

"He always seemed to be a straight shooter. I was shocked by this news," Najarian said.

'UNFORTUNATE SET OF EVENTS'

Madoff had long kept the financial statements for his hedge fund business under "lock and key," according to prosecutors, and was "cryptic" about the firm. The hedge fund business was located on a separate floor from the market-making business.

Madoff has been conducting a Ponzi scheme since at least 2005, the U.S. said. Around the first week of December, Madoff told a senior employee that hedge fund clients had requested about $7 billion of their money back, and that he was struggling to pay them back.

Investors have been pulling money out of hedge funds, even those performing well, in an effort to reduce risk in their portfolios as the global economy weakens.

Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities has more than $700 million in capital, according to its website.

Madoff remains a member of Nasdaq OMX Group Inc's nominating committee, and his firm is a market maker for about 350 Nasdaq stocks, including Apple, EBay and Dell, according to the website.

The website also states that Madoff himself has "a personal interest in maintaining the unblemished record of value, fair-dealing, and high ethical standards that has always been the firm's hallmark."

The company's website may be found here: http:/www.madoff.com/

(Additional reporting by Christian Plumb, Phil Wahba, Michelle Nichols and Dan Wilchins in New York and Rachelle Younglai in Washington; Editing by Andre Grenon, Bernard Orr & Kim Coghill)
 
This is what happens when retards get greedy, and believe any scamster that comes along their way and promises them the moon.

If you believe in easy money - and not dong your homework - thee will be MANY Madoff's. He's not the last.

Remmeber the old addage 'a fool and his money are soon parted'.

On a smaller scale - many middle class soccer warriors have lost billions buying get rich in real estate bullshit scams on tv. Remember thos? Same thing, just smaller indiviudual victims.

Greed and Stupidity will always be attractive to vultures.

r
 
This is what happens when retards get greedy, and believe any scamster that comes along their way and promises them the moon.

If you believe in easy money - and not dong your homework - thee will be MANY Madoff's. He's not the last.

Remmeber the old addage 'a fool and his money are soon parted'.

On a smaller scale - many middle class soccer warriors have lost billions buying get rich in real estate bullshit scams on tv. Remember thos? Same thing, just smaller indiviudual victims.

Greed and Stupidity will always be attractive to vultures.

r

+1 I'm just shocked that such a high profile dude went down: Former chairman of the Nasdaq. Didn't expect to see that.
 
It's only going to get worse. I guarantee it.



China and Russia have booming economies. All they have to do (with their counterparts Venezuela , Pakistan and Iran) is refuse services (oil and outsourcing) and we will start killing eachother in the streets for food and water within a year.

And, yes those guys want the very thing.


The world is honestly going to hell in a hand basket. Quickly.



We have been warned for almost 50 years by quite a few people of this garbage creeping into our systems. The Secretary of Agriculture in the 1950's, Ezra Benson, has warned us of the communism and socialist tenants that would soon plague our country. He was dead on.

Take a look people. Open your eyes and be aware of the truly aweful situation this country is in. Stand up for Democracy and defend our constitution.



We have the governemnt bailing out companies(socialism) because of the greedy hearts of CEO's and chairmen flying their private jets and their $50million yachts.

We have presidents to tax the rich and redistributing it among the poor (socialism) which leads to idleness and unproductivity. If people don't need to work to pay their bills, they aren't going to work.


We have corrupt men taking oaths of secrecy to conspire and get monetary gain at the expense of the american people's welfare.

We have governement officials auctioning off government positions.


This is only scratching the surface. IMO, this country is screwed.
 
lol!! It was far worse in the 30's. No one is starving anymore. In fact it's the opposite. People are eating too much!

So soccer parents lose their expensive homes and have to rent. Boo fucking whoo.

Go vote in Bush again people!

r
 
Madoff has been conducting a Ponzi scheme since at least 2005, the U.S. said.

it's a bit stupid that you tied this in to the bailout, like it actually had something to do with it??

at all?? that was kind of ignorant I felt, but in fairness it did draw attention.
 
lol!! It was far worse in the 30's. No one is starving anymore. In fact it's the opposite. People are eating too much!

So soccer parents lose their expensive homes and have to rent. Boo fucking whoo.

Go vote in Bush again people!

r


Only time will tell where this is really heading. I fear it is going to get pretty bad. I hope not, but i don't count it out.

Bush is a retard.

I pray Obama helps this country. He needs all the help and inspiration he can get. I hope his heart is true to the american people and is true to democracy and capitalism, which is what this country was built upon.



No, right now nobody is really starving in America. I hope they never do, but it could become a reality.
 
It's only going to get worse. I guarantee it.



China and Russia have booming economies. All they have to do (with their counterparts Venezuela , Pakistan and Iran) is refuse services (oil and outsourcing) and we will start killing eachother in the streets for food and water within a year.

And, yes those guys want the very thing.


The world is honestly going to hell in a hand basket. Quickly.



We have been warned for almost 50 years by quite a few people of this garbage creeping into our systems. The Secretary of Agriculture in the 1950's, Ezra Benson, has warned us of the communism and socialist tenants that would soon plague our country. He was dead on.

Take a look people. Open your eyes and be aware of the truly aweful situation this country is in. Stand up for Democracy and defend our constitution.



We have the governemnt bailing out companies(socialism) because of the greedy hearts of CEO's and chairmen flying their private jets and their $50million yachts.

We have presidents to tax the rich and redistributing it among the poor (socialism) which leads to idleness and unproductivity. If people don't need to work to pay their bills, they aren't going to work.


We have corrupt men taking oaths of secrecy to conspire and get monetary gain at the expense of the american people's welfare.

We have governement officials auctioning off government positions.


This is only scratching the surface. IMO, this country is screwed.


IMO you do a very fucking bad job at doing your homework at all..

LO FUCKING L!!!!!!!! @ china and russia having booming economies.. that was so last year man.. but good job on that one..

russia is on the brink of a much much muuuuuuch worse economic crisis than the states.... but you knew that right.. because they are booming?!?!!

bahahah.. cmon now..

China is taking alot of hits aswell, it's a world recession.. like shit man pay attention.. at least a LITTLE and you'd know this shit.

the united states are likely poised to be one of the first countries to break out of the recession..

but you knew that too I bet because we are going to be what??

killing ourselves in the streets for food and water because china and russia are economicly booming superpowers??? Hmmm riiiiiight..

oh man im LOLOLOLING THE Hardest about them not giving us oil and energy resources.. cause we are one of the biggest consumers..

that would really help them out of thier economic crisis.. people just don't pay attention to the underlying economic niches that need to be followed in order to recover.

the worst economic depressions in the states history were when the government sat by and did nothing.. so put that socialism stuff to rest.. it's a necessary action at the time being..

though I do agree with some of your points just not the bulk of it..

here is the tip of the iceberg on the economicly booming russia!!!! :verygood::rolleyes:

The Russian Gamble, International Business, Global Economy - CNBC.com
 
I hope Americans starve. They need to go on a diet BADLY! lol.

Someone bump these threads next year. So we can call out the 'world is ending' people! lol!!

Old Fart Financial Idiots who could never save and should know better - will suffer.

But human society will continue as long as males want to chase and procreate with hot chicks in clubs who pop out babies. :)

Oh and Britney Spears will be fine. I know cuz so many Americans are always worried about her. lol!

r
 
I hope Americans starve. They need to go on a diet BADLY! lol.

Someone bump these threads next year. So we can call out the 'world is ending' people! lol!!

Old Fart Financial Idiots who could never save and should know better - will suffer.

But human society will continue as long as males want to chase and procreate with hot chicks in clubs who pop out babies. :)

Oh and Britney Spears will be fine. I know cuz so many Americans are always worried about her. lol!

r

And get bant!
 
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