DNP cycle

[ItsMYlife]

Well im gonna do my first DNP cycle. This is what my plan looks like. please tell me what u think.

day1
200mg
day2
200mg
day3
200mg
day4
400mg
day5
400mg
day6
400mg
day7
400mg

After im done ill take 1 week off and start this same cycle over again. From what I read im taking.
Magnesium 1500mg
vit c 3000mg
vit e 1200iu
Calcium 2000mg
Pyruvate 3g day
Glyceral 3Tbs day
ALA 2 grams day

Some Questions I have.
1.Did I miss any vitimans I need?

2.Some ppl say that 50%carb 30%pro 20% fats is the best diet while on DNP while others say that carbs will just make you hotter with the same results as a lower carb diet. Is this True? if so what is the best type of diet while on DNP.

My weight is 215lbs. Height is 6'3 My bf% is probably somewhere near 23%-25% not really sure.

 

[Diesel3d]

im on DNP right now too...

the best type of diet would be a carb and protien diet.
You want to keep fat very low on DNP.

Also keep calories as low as possible.

The best combo is to use friut for carbs. If you use friut you will not sweat at all

meal examples,

Chicken and fruit
whey fruit

etc...

since i can take the burning up i eat all carbs but try and keep the fat to as close to 0 as possible.

I would set protien to 1lb of body weight, and fill the rest with fruit carbs and go hard core. 7-10X body weight in cals

remember to drink lots of water!!

good luck

 

[bumpo]

how much fat have you lost on DNP?

Bumpo

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[LIBeef]

I think you should consider some other options, with your stats I don't think DNP should be an option. DNP is for people who have some experiance under their belt. Did you try any other diets or some other drugs that are easier to control like clen, eca along with a ckd diet? With that being said if you are hell bent on doing it I would keep the dose at 200mg for a few more days your first time around because it takes a little bit for it to really kick in. Also make sure you drink at least 2 gallons of water a day also. I do 45% carbs 45% protien, 10% fat when I use it and that works for me. With that being said I must reitterate that I DO NOT reccomend you doing it, try some other ways first, i.e. a.m. cardio, eca, clen and even t3 before you go ahead and do this. I also can't stress how shitty you feel while you are on it even with taking all the supplements you listed.

 

[LIBeef]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that if you f*ck up the sh*t will kill ya.

 

[ItsMYlife]

Yeah ive been dieting for a while now about 1yr. Ive used ECA. t3/clen...Clen only...err thats about it..And now I wanna do DNP. Btw...How about 200mg for 4 days and 400mg for 3? I think by the 4th day i can tell if 200mg is to much.

 

[Citruscide]

I wouldn't suggest DNP for someone in the 20%+ category of fat... especially not for that short term usage. You might yeild a 2-3% fat loss... but that is only if you have a REALLY high amount of DNP over THAT short period of time... and I wouldn't suggest that at all (As I've found myself unable to leave my bed before, only able to readjust the fans -- lol).

A longer term, lower dosage of DNP might be more effective for that fat % range... you'd still be drained... but over a 28 day period... you would really hurt ANY workouts you had... DNP is catabolic and you will lose muscle (not as bad as t3... but bad enough IMO).

I would really suggest DNP to those individuals who need a few percentages of fat reduced... say... from 13 to 10 or from 15 to 12... or even better.. .from 9 to 6...

DNP quite possibly is a miracle fat loss drug... but don't expect to go from flab to ab in 8 days.

C-ditty

 

[EngiCream]

that looks like a normal first cycle.

I'd throw in quercetin too (do a search, you'll see why)

and an eca stack or the equivalent for some energy and added fat loss.

Just be careful and if you feel nervous doing this stuff, then that probably means you haven't read enough.

And remember, sometimes this stuff can surprise even experienced users...as it surprised me just a few weeks ago ...it's not a good sign when 20 degree weather doesn't feel "cold enough" to you.

 

[ItsMYlife]

Thx for the info...

One problem im having, Im currently on a CKD diet I just started it about 4days ago...Should I just stop it now and go on my DNP diet plan (45/45/10 carb/pro/fat)
For a few days and then start my DNP?
AND what do you do after ur cycle is over? Do I start a normal diet (60%pro 20%carb 20% fat) the day after my last dose?
and I know your probably thinking if u dont know that dont do DNP!! But ive read tons of articles and thet usually just say what to do during DNP..I wonder what to do after im done.

Im gonna post a diet plan on here later for you all to see...TY

 

[ItsMYlife]

Ok well Im thinking of starting this diet now for 2days. Im having doubts about starting in 2 days just because of my diet. Im not afraid since I have all my Vitamins, Anti Os ready..I did my research and only reason im having doubts is because of my diet plan..I wanna get the most outta this cycle.

PLAN. 48% carbs/41% pro/11% fat

after workout-Postworkout shake

1. 1/2cup Oatmeal

2. 5oz Chicken Breast
1 cup green peas

3. 5oz Chicken Breast
1 cup green peas

4. 4oz Chicken Breast
1 cup green peas

5. 6 egg whites b4 bed

Ill be eating 4 apples and 3 pears every day in between meals.

Calories-2000

 

[REDMACHINE]

I did my first DNP cycle over Xmas I carb pepleted for 3 days before I stated then ate 33-33-33 500 cals below BMR..I had 250mg Crystals and ran it like this

1-3 250
4-9 500mg

had bf tested before and after by the same C.A.T. and here is what happened...

Start 12-14 233@ 21.5% 50lb FAT 183LBM
END 12- 22 [email protected]% 37lb FAT 180LBM

Since I have totally shifted gears and bulked up (4-500cals 35-50-15 CLEAN) and hit an all time high level intensity in the weight room (Thanks to a greak workout partner) with great results, My metabolism is running like crazy compared to before with all that extra bf...

last check
Feb [email protected]% 38lb FAT 199LBM

I know alot of guys hear will think I am full of shit but ALL of my BF tests are by the same trainer with calipers... I am not on any gear now...however I believe having the mass at a higher weight has alot to do with gainig almost 20lbs of mass in 6weeks. Every time I see someone they always asume Im on AS now so I cant wait to see the results from my first cycle this summer. DBol and Sust..Hitting same DNP cycle over spring break want to hit 13-14% but 12 would be great!!!

 

[kenleo]

bump

 

[ItsMYlife]

I did my first DNP cycle over Xmas I carb pepleted for 3 days before I stated then ate 33-33-33 500 cals below BMR..I had 250mg Crystals and ran it like this

1-3 250
4-9 500mg

had bf tested before and after by the same C.A.T. and here is what happened...

Start 12-14 233@ 21.5% 50lb FAT 183LBM
END 12- 22 [email protected]% 37lb FAT 180LBM

Since I have totally shifted gears and bulked up (4-500cals 35-50-15 CLEAN) and hit an all time high level intensity in the weight room (Thanks to a greak workout partner) with great results, My metabolism is running like crazy compared to before with all that extra bf...

last check
Feb [email protected]% 38lb FAT 199LBM

I know alot of guys hear will think I am full of shit but ALL of my BF tests are by the same trainer with calipers... I am not on any gear now...however I believe having the mass at a higher weight has alot to do with gainig almost 20lbs of mass in 6weeks. Every time I see someone they always asume Im on AS now so I cant wait to see the results from my first cycle this summer. DBol and Sust..Hitting same DNP cycle over spring break want to hit 13-14% but 12 would be great!!!

Nice info..
So I should start my diet the day I start my DNP?
Btw how long after u stoped DNP did u keep that same diet?
With those results I wanna ask...Did u do alot of cardio?

 

[REDMACHINE]

You need to have as little of carbs as poss. 4 days before you start then a low cal diet mainly watching fat cals...

I did roughly 2000 cals with no cardio and moderate training..sides were not bad but it was xmas break so I did not have access to the gym very often....hopefully adding some AM cardio will make for some better results next month..

I did a Modified CKD for one month after slowly adding carbs and extra cals not wanting to gain back all the fat I just lost.. any more questions just let me know...

 

[ItsMYlife]

Thx alot been great help...And yes I do have more questions

I had all the supplements ready except Pyruvate and Glyceral. I went looking all over town today...I went to Riteaid, Walgreens, And I sword I would never go to GNC but I was very very desperate. AND they want 60dollars for Glyceral!!!
So basically are those to supplements very neccessary? IF so where the hell do I get them for a good price???

AND what do u think about my diet? (the one above)

Thx again....

 

[LIBeef]

I got glycerol at wallgreens for like $3 for a 4 oz bottle, it is in the skin care section, not the vitamin section. Pyruvate can be found at pretty much any nutrition store or you can get it online, I have used www.vitaglo.com, they are cheap and have very good service. The diet looks ok, Maybe you could even cut a few more calories out, I find that between an eca and all the supplements I dont have much of an appitite.

 

[ItsMYlife]

Well I went to walgreens and Riteaid and both have Glycerin?? It comes in a 4oz bottle for 3 bucks like u said. But there not the same are they? Glycerin says DO NOT INGEST? the label says for external use ONLY!!

Just gotta ask again, Are those to supplements nesseccary?

 

[juiceismyantidrug]

Hey bro,

Talk of DNP is going back to the way of PM's and non message board ways of communication. Just look at what kind of bad publicity Ephedra is getting right now. Read this and if you have any more questions you are not ready to take DNP:

http://www.geocities.com/byggdegstor/dnpforside

And to answer your question about Glycerol, I have read that your can take Glycerin or Glycerol, although I have only taken the latter. Got mine at a local supplement store, stay away from chains like GNC. It is Twin Labs and I got it for under $10, but if I didn't have it during my last cycle I probably would have paid $100 for it. Be careful bro...itsYOURlife but make sure you take care of it. There are people in this world that would be happy just to have access to drinkable water, let alone dinitrophenols.

Just my .02

 

[EngiCream]

glycerol and glycerin are the same chemicals.

Personally, I've never used the stuff, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't.

 

[ItsMYlife]

Why the hell does it say FOR EXTERNAL USE ONLY? lol I think DNP is bad enough I dont wanna take something else that might kill me.

 

[LIBeef]

If you are worried about that you should see what the warnings on dnp. In any case 3 tablespoons a day is not gonna kill ya. I mix it with a little bit of lemonade and I don't taste it at all.

 

[bigrand]

I found it quite useful, it ensured i was hydrated even if i wasnt getting as much water as i should have. I would pyruvate to be useless, i dont see where it would be very effective, the Krebs cycle is basically stopped....but if it works for ya, so be it.

 

[REDMACHINE]

Ok well Im thinking of starting this diet now for 2days. Im having doubts about starting in 2 days just because of my diet. Im not afraid since I have all my Vitamins, Anti Os ready..I did my research and only reason im having doubts is because of my diet plan..I wanna get the most outta this cycle.

PLAN. 48% carbs/41% pro/11% fat

after workout-Postworkout shake

1. 1/2cup Oatmeal

2. 5oz Chicken Breast
1 cup green peas

3. 5oz Chicken Breast
1 cup green peas

4. 4oz Chicken Breast
1 cup green peas

5. 6 egg whites b4 bed

Ill be eating 4 apples and 3 pears every day in between meals.

Calories-2000

The only supps I took were vit A and E plus a multi vit. you dont really need all that other shit just wacth your temp and drink LOTS OF WATER..I also was taking 9 ripped fuel ed. 3tabs 3x day. My diet will be similar to yours this time except Ill eat more tuna than chicken less fat and cheaper too...I would cut out the fruit Its only sugar and water.....also carbs will be important for energy and to keep a high temp try adding some beans good protien low GI and good protien too. I like to mix black beans lentils split grean peas (all in bags for like $0.50 at walmart) and mix with some brown rice. you can season it to taste and its a great meal with 3-5oz of chicken/lean beef when trying to cut or bulk...also I am going todo some AM cardio on empt stomach and ECA to max it out.....Hope this helps keep the questions and coments coming...

 

[LIBeef]

The only supps I took were vit A and E plus a multi vit. you dont really need all that other shit just wacth your temp and drink LOTS OF WATER..I also was taking 9 ripped fuel ed. 3tabs 3x day. My diet will be similar to yours this time except Ill eat more tuna than chicken less fat and cheaper too...I would cut out the fruit Its only sugar and water.....also carbs will be important for energy and to keep a high temp try adding some beans good protien low GI and good protien too. I like to mix black beans lentils split grean peas (all in bags for like $0.50 at walmart) and mix with some brown rice. you can season it to taste and its a great meal with 3-5oz of chicken/lean beef when trying to cut or bulk...also I am going todo some AM cardio on empt stomach and ECA to max it out.....Hope this helps keep the questions and coments coming...

I tried it with out all the supplements and with. You can get through it with out the supplements but the way you feel when you take all of them is 10X better. I have been taking 200mg every 12 hours for 8 days and I feel fine outside of clammy palms and my armpits sweat a little more. When I did it w/o everything I fealt horrible and had to change my clothesa few times throughout the day. I am also having no problems making it to the gym and getting in good workouts which was not an option when I did it on its own. I am down 13lbs and am peeing antifreeze so I know its working

 

[REDMACHINE]

I took 250 for 3 500 for 6 days of CRYSTAL and only had clen like sides....got really hpt and sweaty about 6hrs after pill and lasted for about 3-5 hrs ... it wasnt that bad

 

[browndog1]

I would cut out the fruit Its only sugar and water.....

Though I can't comment first hand, I was under the assumption that fruit was an awesome additional "supplement" to a DNP cycle for just that reason, that it is sugar and water...am I worng?

...bd

 

[REDMACHINE]

Well I dont see why the shugar would be good....you can eat better carbs and water with out the insulin spiking shugar that is not needed or wanted while cutting...you can get the same amount of carbs from other foods with a much lower GI.

 

[ItsMYlife]

Ive read the same thing...
I read that you want the insulin spike. althou i dont know tomuch about why.

 

[REDMACHINE]

I dont know why either if you find out let me know..

 

[kenleo]

bump

 

[browndog1]

I found this tidbit as part of the "7day DNP inferno" -

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5. EAT FRUIT while on your DNP cycle.

Fruit for some reason has been found to greatly reduce the lethargy associated with a DNP cycle. It also has a high water content, therefore it helps to keep the dieter hydrated. Watermelon is an obvious recommendation.

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I have a ton of DNP documents - if I find anything else on fruit I'll post it.


...bd

 

[beefybull]

Andy13 has said many times that his diet on DNP has sometimes consisted of only Fruit & Pepsi

Sugar/carbs will increase results but also increase heat

 

[Riker29]

... that fruit was an awesome additional "supplement" to a DNP cycle for just that reason, that it is sugar and water...am I worng?

Fructose does not induce an insulin release by itself. So in some ways its easier to tolerate.

On another note,


I am AMAZED by the various opinions, and in some cases, utter BS, that is being spewed forth in this thread.

Take few Carbs, take no cards, take like 0% fat take a moderate anount of fat.

Unreal.

Hey - if you dont know what yoyu are talking about, iof you have never actually DONE the thing people are asking about - then DONT GIVE ADVICE.

Jeezus, of ALL of the things to be talking about, when yoy are not ABSOLUTELY SURE of what you are talking about. DNP is not to be messed with.

Here is a REAL recommendation for you.

Take DNP at a very low dose at like 200 mgs/day, for a week, just to see how you tolerate it. This will allow you to see if you have any specifc issues with it (some peoel are like violently allergic to DNP).

Another reason to do this, to verify the dose of your caps. Some suppliers are a bit lax about quality control, and this will be a good way for you to see how things are with your supplier.

DNP takes days to really kick in, and its a cumulative effect as well. Even at a regular, comnstant dose per day, teh effects will get more and more intense on days 4,5,6,7, etc.

Just be careful.

And for God's sake dont take any ONE person's advice as gospel, to the point of it determining anything major about your cycle. Its obvious from all of the various .... uh ... "opinions" that there is a lot of folklore ot there abotu DNP.

Its also a problem in that its very hard to get. I have not heard of anyone I know directly being able to find and legit DNP for like a year at least, so be careful.

 

[Diesel3d]

Fructose does not induce an insulin release by itself. So in some ways its easier to tolerate.

On another note,


I am AMAZED by the various opinions, and in some cases, utter BS, that is being spewed forth in this thread.

Take few Carbs, take no cards, take like 0% fat take a moderate anount of fat.

Unreal.

you make a comment about diet, and you don't even answer the question....

If everything on the thread is utter bs, you must know everything about dieting on dnp right?

so what do you know that we don't? Tell us the secret diet you know, because apparently we are all wrong.

I have done 4 dnp cycles, and a low to 0 fat, 50% cals carb(fruit) and 50% protein diet , and have all worked great. It's a common diet for experienced dnp users.

the author seems to have his cycle plan down to test allergic reaction fine. he needs help on the diet.

 

[kenleo]

bump

 

[Riker29]

you make a comment about diet, and you don't even answer the question....

If everything on the thread is utter bs, you must know everything about dieting on dnp right?

so what do you know that we don't? Tell us the secret diet you know, because apparently we are all wrong.

I have done 4 dnp cycles, and a low to 0 fat, 50% cals carb(fruit) and 50% protein diet , and have all worked great. It's a common diet for experienced dnp users.

the author seems to have his cycle plan down to test allergic reaction fine. he needs help on the diet.

I never said I knew everything, and never claimed to. Thats ths issue. So many people want to "look cool" that they tend to just spew forth advice whiuch they may bave seen elsehwre, and they have little to no experience.

Hearing that YOU bave done deversl cycles and had resuilts makes YOUR statements have a lot of weight and would make them believeable for readers.

I wanted mainly to shed light on the fact that there was a lot of advice inb this thread which is of questionable validity.

To answer the questions, I think his cycle design is OK, however I still feel that a full 7 days on 200 mgs is the best way to test things for anyone who has never used it before, and.or is dealing with a new supplier.

Diet wise, I have seen that people who stick to fructose-based carbs tend to have a better result, so your 50/50 carb protein based on fruit for carbs sounds like a great plan.

I also think people need to realize that they cant just eat like pigs on DNP. There was and is a lot of folkore going around about being able to just eat eat eat on it and still lose fat - that is simply not true.

Anyway, its one thing when people talk out of their ass when it comes to protein and creatine, and even like a Test-based cycle, but it really bugs me when people talk that way when dealing with DNP. That cab get people killed.

 

[Diesel3d]

you make a good point, a lot of people spew out stuff that they should not. There’s really no way to solve this problem. This is the scary thing.

I agree, about the eating thing. I have gotten to points on dnp cycles where my diet was good, but i would always get stuck going out to dinner with friends etc... I would have burgers and fries, pizza etc...

from then on I stop losing weight. A lot of people say DNP is magic , but its really not.

The only cases where I hear people losing weight while eating crap is those people who do insane things such as 800 crystal a day.

For me a cycle would be 200 one day then 400 the next, and repeat for a few weeks. Then in the last week, 400 one day, 600 the next and repeat throughout the week. all in powder form

I would do this for about 4 weeks, and would only notice results if I kept my calories low. That's what it all comes down to.

 

[Riker29]

Great points, and one thing that worries me is that supplier variability is very high. Som overdose, some underdose, I know of one guty that swore that his caps must have had like ECA in them or something.

After the scares of like a year ago, its very hard to find a good supplier. I gave up a while ago when a friend was asking.