deadlifts

[Welsh power house]

I have always done deadlifts, but i went into my local supplements shop and the guy told me that they are too dangerous, he said to avoid them.
He gave me some greaty advice on a new routine and diet to gain mass and weight.
My back routine is :
barbell rows
lat pulldowns
lever row

do i need deadlifts???
they seem to be the be all and end all of back mass, so it feels dumb to leave them out, any help would rule!

 

[Phemomena]

do you NEED deadlifts - No, the only thing you need to do is eat, breathe, shit and die

are deadlifts dangerous - NO, not when done correctly...

i am under the personal belief that the best back builder is Pullups... others listed are fine too...

deadlifts are more a allover mass builder, the not only work the back but also the hams and glutes (for sldls and rdls) and bring all the stabalizers into play... i personally wouldn't remove them from my routine... when done safely and correctly, they are right up there with squats in my books...

 

[Bobba]

Not doing deadlifts is just stupid. Work on doing them properly for a couple of months, and then lower your reps and lift like a madman!

I've been doing heavy deadlifts for nearly a year now, and my back have become my best bodypart! My lower back feels like steel wires.

One heavy set of deadlifts is like a heavy set of goodmornings, barbell rows, shrugs and leg curls at once!

 

[maxellyz]

are deadlifts dangerous - NO, not when done correctly...

Your back routine looks good, try to add the deads some times cause its a great exercise

 

[Welsh power house]

Bobba, u ass clown, my back is my best bodypart, and i have been doing deadlifts for close to 2 years now. but as i am only 17 years old, a friend of mine said they should be avoided.....dont try and give out a shit answer like that again, if you have only been training a year, dont try and give out an impression that u are a seasoned lifter, i dont want a lower back injury at all in my life, and weights are my life, so if deads fuck up my shit right now think how fucked i will be when i am older.
I am not trying to have a go at you, even though i might have come across as an egotisical shower dweller.

any more views??????????

 

[McBainXVII]

heres the view from where i stand- i deadlift.

 

[MonStar1023]

Welsh power house...
I dont know what the hell your thinking even considering dropping heavy deads from back rountine bro! They should be the cornerstone of your back routine along with chins and bentover rows. Deadlifts, bentover rows, and chins are the BEST exercises for packing on mass to your lats and rhomboids. Put your time into each of the 3 exercises and I guarantee you that you wont be dissapointed.

 

[The Dude]

Do them, but only if you do them right. They will help your back development considerably and will really push your traps to amazing levels of development. Love 'em. They're safe if done correctly.

 

[Superbabe]

If you can do them properly, and you don't have any probs with them, (eg, bad knees, frozen vertabrae or they leave you in pain - not soreness- for days ) then you probably won't damage yourself provided you continue to lift safely. If you suspect you have damaged yourself, go see Doc or Chiropractor . . . .

If you feel you need some help to get the techinique together, find someone who can show you (try looking at the powerlifting board too). Also don't forget we are all different and what works for one won't work for another

With all that taken into account, if they help you towards your goals, continue. If they do nothing for you, don't.

They can be a stressful movement, so may be worthwhile noting that a lot of Pros use them, but only once a fortnight . . . .

Me, I luv 'em.

 

[edgecrusher]

Good call Superbabe. Most techniques if done correctly are not dangerous. All lifts cause some where and tear on the body. Just be careful, train w/ your head and you should not have any problems. By the way the deadlift and the olympic lifts have been staples in my routine for approximately ten years now, and I have no real ailments to speak of.