Deadlifts on shoulder day

[megad]

I've been thinking... Since I am too tired to complete anything after deadlifts (sumo) on bicep/back day, can I just do deadlifts after my routine on shoulder day?
Here's my routine without deads, please help me think of something:

Day #1 Legs
Squats 5x5
Leg Press 2x8
Hamstring Curls 2x8
Seated Calf Raises 2x15

Day #2 Chest
Bench Press 5x5
Incline Dumbell Press 2x8
Dumbell Flies 2x8
Dips 3x5
Close Grip Bench 2x8

Day #3 Bis/Back
Pullups 5x5
Barbell Curls 2x8
V-bar Pull Downs 2x8
Hammer Curls 2x8
Rows 2x8

Day #4 Shoulders
Seated Dumbell Press 5x5
Standing Side Laterals 2x8
Front Raises 2x8
Shrugs 2x8
Upright Rows 2x8

 

[collegiateLifter]

be careful doin bent over rows, squats and deads all in the same week, week in and week out. a lot of people can't make gains while doin that.

 

[fastgain]

Sounds like my Tuesdays....they are ROUGH!

Military Press 5x5
Side Laterals 2x8-10
Reverse Pec Deck 2x8-10

Deadlifts 5x5
Weighted Wide-grip pullups 2x8-10
Bentover dumbell rows 2x8-10
Shrugs 2x8-10

I usually want to die after that workout. The pullups after deads are probably the worst. Sometimes I just don't have the energy to do all those exercises in an hour though.

 

[megad]

be careful doin bent over rows, squats and deads all in the same week, week in and week out. a lot of people can't make gains while doin that.

Yea, i think I might just do bent over rows every 2-3 weeks starting soon. Personally, I can't really feel them working, and I'm not making gains.

 

[Lee]

i dont like doing bent over bb rows at all, too hard on my back. i just do dumbell rows on a bench, i can really feel those

 

[natedog]

If you don't like or don't feel bent over rows, try them Dorian-style...reverse grip and only bend over about half way or a little less. Takes a lot of stress off your lower back and puts your biceps in a stronger position, allowing you to use more weight and really hit your lats.

I couldn't imagine doing deads at the end of any workout. They are 2nd on back day (after pull-ups) for me. I even do rows after them and still make good gains on both lifts and my lats.

 

[Lee]

If you don't like or don't feel bent over rows, try them Dorian-style...reverse grip and only bend over about half way or a little less. Takes a lot of stress off your lower back and puts your biceps in a stronger position, allowing you to use more weight and really hit your lats.

I couldn't imagine doing deads at the end of any workout. They are 2nd on back day (after pull-ups) for me. I even do rows after them and still make good gains on both lifts and my lats.

actually after posting that i went downstairs to practice my form and got it down jsut right, and they felt good. but then again, db rows give me the same feeling.

 

[Nonerz]

I love bent over rows and have tried them with the reverse grip as well. I admit, I saw them in a magazine and wanted to try it out. You're right natedog, I could feel it in my biceps which was a nice change. Lee, are you keeping your back flat when doing the bent over rows? You're a pretty tall guy...wonder if that is a factor as well...

 

[wildonsquats]

I do bent over rows reverse grip style too. I'm pretty bent over as i have good flexibility, however i did notice that by changing 2 things i got a real good back workout / burn.

1) Attempt to drive the bar into your stomach during the pull.

2) Lighter weights are better, 10 - 12 rep range. Full range of motion is so important in this exercise, if you do not attempt to raise your elbows/ shoulder blades real far back you will not get the full benefit of the exercise. So lighten up on the weight and you will get a better workout. Personally for me, i went from 185 back down to 155, and noticed a huge difference as i was able to control the weight more.

 

[megad]

Another Routine

I tried the deadlifts/shoulder day combination today... bad idea. I couldnt push any weight on seated press cause I was to tired from deads. So, here's my new routine:

Day #1 Legs
Squats 5x5
Leg Press 2x8
Hamstring Curls 2x8
Seated Calf Raises 2x15

Day #2 Chest
Bench Press 5x5
Incline Dumbell Press 2x8
Dumbell Flies 2x8
Dips 3x5
Close Grip Bench 2x8

Day #3 Deadlifts 5x5

Day #4 Shoulders / Deads
Seated Dumbell Press 5x5
Standing Side Laterals 2x8
Front Raises 2x8
Shrugs 2x8
Upright Rows 2x8

Day #5 Bis/Back
Pullups 5x5
Barbell Curls 2x8
V-bar Pull Downs 2x8
Hammer Curls 2x8
Cbale Rows 2x8

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