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Deadlift Form

IronLion

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I did deadlifts off the jumpstretch platform and then some from the floor today and my partner and I are both having the same trouble with our form. I seem to pull too much with my back when the weight is heavy so that it is a sld instead of a full dl. I think I am losing a ton of power b/c of this. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
I put the bar right on my shins and I drag it up them. I try to get my shins vertical before the pull, with my ass low.

Spatts: I actually was thinking and repeating that to myself all day and it really helped with the lower weights but when I went to 6 my hips wouldn't come through. The weight came up fast though, I could have done it for reps, I just couldn't stay back.
 
When I do them I place my shins up agianst the bar and pull up with my back and bend my knees to help push while in the middle of the lift, then use my all my back to finnish from there.

I dont know if this is perfect form but it works well for me, without pains.
 
I think I just need practice...but I am definately going to add speed sumo's regardless b/c they are great for acceleration.
Tell me what you think is wrong with this picture:

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besides the shorts being pulled up, it is something I got in the habit of when I used to clean a lot...plus I think I make a great ballerina;)

should I be back farther? or is this o.k.
 
IronLion said:
Tell me what you think is wrong with this picture:

I'm not in it? :bawling: I wish I could make it down there to train more often...looks like they painted the place!

It's really hard to tell...I mean your arch just looks gone, but I don't really have a good view either. I'd really need a video to tell anything else.
 
There is something inhuman about watching a man holding a steel bar... bending..... from all the weight on it.
 
Yeah I will try to film some or at least find a good deadlifter there who wants to help me out....for now I think i will go back to heavy squats before I hurt my back again.

Funny thing happened though, my buddy was using the jump stretch conventional setup with my light bands doubled and he was trying to work on sitting back hard. He starts wobbling and eats it backwards with the platform still stuck to his feet and the bar still in his hands...i wish I would have got the look on his face on camera
 
I have the same problem with hip drive. I've started doing kneeling squats. They really work your ass off. I'm hardly one to give advice to someone like you, but you might want to give them a try :)
 
Well, I will be there Friday and Saturday. So maybe I can just work with you then...I have a few things to pick your brain about.
 
right on...I'll be there friday and I will probably come watch on Sat.

Mike I think the kneeling squats are a good idea, I am going to at least try them to see if I feel like they might help. Hip strength is one thing that I may have overdeveloped though, the dead problem I am having may be a combination of an injured hamstring and lack of practice.
 
I set up with my shins a few inches behind the bar. This helps me keep my shoulders behing the bar. I find if I "shin-up" to the bar it turns into a SLDL
 
argent said:
I set up with my shins a few inches behind the bar. This helps me keep my shoulders behing the bar. I find if I "shin-up" to the bar it turns into a SLDL

interseting...worth a try...I have been trying to get my shins vertical and sitting real deep with the bar right on the shins...I have got some pretty shins now

I have been looking at a lot of videos of record deadlifts and most of them are not much more than a sld with a dip to get it started
 
FWIW, I had the same problem several months ago and B-Fold suggested it might be due to weak hams. I started doing pull-throughs and box squats (exclusively) and over time, it became easier and easier to hold my butt down.

BTW, I have tried with the bar a few inches away from my shins, and right on my shins. For me, I can hold better form by dragging it up my shins. (The last 2 videos I posted were wthe bar "on" my shins.)

.02,
Joker
 
I'm gonna pull heavy here in a few weeks. My bar is either throwing me off (severely bent) or I am doing the same thing that you are. I am locking my knees too soon and lower backing it up...

B True
 
Bump!

When doing deadlifts, do I let the plates touch the floor or leave them hanging?

I did deadlifts last week and did them stiff-leg style without me realizing it. Hurt my back doing them too.

Thanks brothers.
 
argent said:
I set up with my shins a few inches behind the bar. This helps me keep my shoulders behing the bar. I find if I "shin-up" to the bar it turns into a SLDL


Argent, I agree 100 percent. Once I backed my shins away from the bar a bit, and kept my shoulders behind the bar, my form got a LOT better... and my shins stopped getting jacked as well.
 
mikey297 said:
Bump!

When doing deadlifts, do I let the plates touch the floor or leave them hanging?

I did deadlifts last week and did them stiff-leg style without me realizing it. Hurt my back doing them too.

Thanks brothers.

Mikey,

When I do DLs for reps, I put the bar down and reset my address after every rep. Proper form and safety are NOTHING to screw around with when it comes to deadlifts.
 
Thanks Cuthbert, also what do you think is the ideal rep range for heavy DLs? I am thinking of doing maybe 3 sets of 6 reps after warming up.
 
I'm not a big fan of training DL for reps, but when I do, (or did), I generally would do 3x5 or 3x3... form is the first thing to go when fatigued, so I kept them low.

However, my goals are strength-oriented, if you're looking for more of a bodybuilding workout, you might want to use higher reps.
 
mikey297 said:
When doing deadlifts, do I let the plates touch the floor or leave them hanging?

I thought deads were supposed to have NO eccentric? Thus you pretty much have to put them on the floor - really more like a controlled drop.
 
brian747478` said:
cuthbert, i thought u were a bodybuilder? was i mistaken????;)

LOL......... LINDERIOUS VON MAGNUSON!!!!!

X
 
also since you have an oly lifting background, you will find, as I have msyelf, that this will cause your knees to straighten out early so your SLDL the weight up - since this is what happens in olylifts, but you don't get the double knee rebend happening in a deadlift :)

one way around this is to do sumo, since the movement pattern is not the same.
 
One technique i find that helps in situations like this, is to climb the wall w/ my eyes. Basically, my first move is to throw my head back. This helps me maintain my arch and get my hips through the move.
 
maybe try really concentrating on squeezing your ass and hamys right before you start with the back drive. I have to do this each time I dl, or else I start to pull too much with my back.
 
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