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[beginnersluck 90]

Guess I should go back to chicken breast and brown rice.

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[kmoe4747]

DIET DIET DIET! I'm gonna beat the dead horse but its as simple as that. You don't have the worst base I've seen but it is going to take some hard work and good diet. And if it were easy everyone would be shredded. It takes dedication to stay on a strict diet and work out routine. If you do want some outside help as far as supps. Look into natural supplements for weight loss and muscle building.

 

[beginnersluck 90]

I got the diet thing...but building mass while cutting is impossible. What do I eat to build mass but keep the fat low but not too low.

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[rustilldown]

I got the diet thing...but building mass while cutting is impossible. What do I eat to build mass but keep the fat low but not too low.

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Sounds like you are losing the battle before you even begin with that attitude. Obviously you aren't doing something correctly, let me list some simple ideas for you, and at your weight and bf it is easy to recomp, not easy per say.. But far from impossible.

You want to cut fat and maintain muscle ? The best ways I have been able to do this is 1 ( high intensity interval training) by this I mean hop on a bike , warm up for 5-10 minutes get the blood flowing , go lift your select weight movements for the day ( chest, back, legs, whatever it may be) hit it hard and heavy pushing each rep till the last, get the weights over with within a half hour , Hop back on that bike and hit the intervals .. Warm up again for a minute ( your body is already warm so you don't need much time, crank the resistance up and peddle your fuckin ass off for 30 seconds ( or longer if you aren't gassed ) then lower intensity to a nice easy pace for 1-2 minutes ( I suggest starting at 2 as you will find this difficult to keep up for 15 minutes) after those 2 minutes crank that fucker up again and pedal until you are wiped, breathless almost can't go on, then lower resistance again for 2 minutes, rinse and repeat for 15 minutes. This routine gives you a 10 min bike warm up , 30 min weights, 15 min intervals for a total of 55 minutes, I suggest stretching for 5 - 10 minutes after while sippin on your ISO protein or whatever . Next day , your legs may be a little fucked up so after doing your weights, do 15 minutes medium pace cardio , day 3 hit those intervals again.

I won't touch on your diet as you say it's " in check" but I doubt it is. Keep the protein high , carbs low- moderate ( maybe up a little on interval days) and fats at somewhere around .45 grams per lb bw. You don't have to be exact with any of these numbers, keep the food clean and wholesome, no garbage sauces or sugars , and watch yourself transform. The intervals are key for me in staying lean , they keep your metabolism jacked for hours post workout, so as you sleep and even into the next day your metabolism is burning at elevated rate , so your burning additional fat ! Now this is only one method but it's my go to, as you get more advanced , after intervals maybe hit up a secondary muscle group, I.e , work back, do intervals, finish a nasty bicep circuit, extending your workout time to maybe 1 hour 15 minutes... But for now go train, if your reading this at your computer right now, turn it off, do a giant set of push-ups and sit-ups , and go to bed, the new you starts today .

 

[beginnersluck 90]

Thanks for actually putting some worthwhile info. No my diet isn't in check as of now. But I am aware of how to cut. I started out last year around June weighing around 210 lbs. and by January I was down to 169 lbs. I am curious as to what I should be eating to continue to make good mass gains. I don't want to be fat but I don't want to be lower than about 10% bodyfat either.

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[beginnersluck 90]

Sorry if I am coming off as having an attitude. I just want details on dieting for good mass gains while keeping the bodyfat low ish. No one seems to be giving me a detailed answer. I want a list of foods that I should be eating. Everyone is saying diet but not what to be doing on this diet in detail.

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[Idobehigh]

Sorry if I am coming off as having an attitude. I just want details on dieting for good mass gains while keeping the bodyfat low ish. No one seems to be giving me a detailed answer. I want a list of foods that I should be eating. Everyone is saying diet but not what to be doing on this diet in detail.

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Your not going to accidentally become lower than 10% bf you are over thinking the whole process witch in a way hurts you. You have lost weight before you obviously know what to eat and you know it's a slow process. Do the hit training like suggested and he listen what your general nutrition should consist of. You got to research a lil more. A general idea would be chicken breasts baked, grilled, boiled what ever u want with some fresh broccoli with some carrots stick to fresh vegetables and try and eat them with every meal. Boil some eggs, so they are hard boiled eggs peel them back throw away the yolk and eat the whites. Buy some rice cakes eat those for snacks. Make a salad with tuna mixed in or even add your chicken.. The information is out there bro no one will really want to spoon feed you the answers you know? Look up logs on this website there is some people out there that list everything the eat. FYI a good app is myfitnesspal it will track all your macros and tell you how much you need to eat and when you go over its on android and apple.

 

[beginnersluck 90]

Thanks. I have that app. I will go back to a cleaner diet for sure. Which consisted of mainly oatmeal with a scoop of protein. Grilled chicken breast with brown rice and broccoli. I had steak here and there. I pretty much cut out all things white...flour, sugar, white rice, and dairy. But I felt like during this I wasnt doing anything but losing. I didn't feel like I was making any mass gains. Which is why I just started eating whatever as long as it contained a decent amount of protein and cut out cardio.

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[Idobehigh]

Cutting you typically lose some size I mean just can you weigh 190 doesn't mean you will stay 190 but drop bf% it doesn't work like that naturally body building is a marathon not a sprint, people that think other wise end up hurt, discouraged, or fucking themselves up in the long run just be patient and stick with it, btw opening a bunch of threads on this forum you will just get a bunch of shit from other members... Just trying to help you out

 

[RADAR]

Sorry if I am coming off as having an attitude. I just want details on dieting for good mass gains while keeping the bodyfat low ish. No one seems to be giving me a detailed answer. I want a list of foods that I should be eating. Everyone is saying diet but not what to be doing on this diet in detail.

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