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I am currently 175lbs and about 17% bodyfat at 5'10". I am in a bulking stage. but here lately i feel like i am at a standstill. If i were to want something to help speed up the process or to at least help, what would you guys suggest
 
I am 22. and i will have been training for a year in june. When i started training i was about 210lbs at a much higher bodyfat percentage.

What would you suggest as far as helping build a better base?
 
keep working out.. you got a late start in life but doing steroids isn't gonna help you catch up. gotta put in the hours in the weight room.

i would suggest improving your diet and training from here and you will start seeing more progress.. no way with those stats you are even close to reaching a hard to break barrier.

continue losing the body fat.. twice a day cardio would be tremendous and cutting out bad shit out of your diet and replacing with veggies. and then with weight training i would focus on high reps and quick workouts to improve your conditioning.. 20 sets in under 45 minutes should be your goal.. its easily do-able if you aren't wasting time socializing and mirror watching yourself and chicks.. go there to workout not to fuck around. morning cardio i suggest 1-2 miles fast pace on the bicycle before breakfast. you can pop a piece of fruit before but save breakfast till after. a mile or two on the bicycle takes a few minutes.. surely you have a few minutes in the morning to get this done
 
Listen to Stevesmi. Under a year training there is no way you hit a plateau and if you did just change up your workout routine. My guess if you got this late of a start on lifting you probably aren't to well educated in training or dieting. Read as much as you can on here and other boards in the workout and dieting section. Not the AAS section. 17% is to high of BF to start cycling as well. Get your diet in check and get the BF down. Also at 22 your still producing a lot of natty T right now.

So once you do all of this and have about 3 more years under your belt of great training and dieting. Then you can start researching and asking for advice on a cycle around here.

Probably not what you want to hear but bros around here will shoot you straight and look out for your personal health
 
one year seems like a long time but not for your muscles those bad boys are just starting to grow, diet is how you are going to get HUGE, read up on mags and websites on clean bulking diet and supplements that help you grow like creatine, eat eat and eat.. steroids alone cannot help you achieve your goal, once you get a few years at the gym with proper diet the results will come i guarantee it and I've to say the best bulking food is steak.
 
Wish it wasn't so damn expensive. I love steak. Just can't affoard it on a regular. what's good websites for examples of Bulking diets. I currently am taking creatine,.and glutamine. I am taking syntha6 protein...in just the past four days I've uped my protein intake which I think is causing me to bloat. Any advise on that

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I was at a much lower bf% but I've gone up since I've started bulking. its taken me 2 months to put on six pounds

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Typically most people stop bulking at 15% once you get in the higher numbers it becomes harder to lose the weight. You post a picture in the attachment settings when your about to post something, I would either try and start cutting with cardio or switch to a cleaner bulk with some cardio just my .02
 
Sorry for quality...quick pic and dirty mirror.View attachment 103943

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you are closer to 20% with very little muscle mass.

you got to hit the weight room harder and clean up your diet from here .. as simple as that. its gonna take time. you aren't gonna turn into superman overnight
 
im in there 4-5 days a week working moderate weight at 12-15 reps. What should i be eating? The guy that owns my gym is a retired bodybuilder and he told me not to cut but i need to focus on building mass. HELP!
 
it depends on your goal is. with summer coming up you are better off leaning out so you don't feel fat and embarrassed. bodybuilding.com got some good articles on clean bulking, dieting and such.. ask the bodybuilders at your gym, basically to cut some bf do cardio 4x to 5x per wk for 40 mins each session after workout or on an empty stomach in the am. protein should always be around 1.5g per kg. after your bf goes down.. start bulking up clean, no junk food like pizza, burgers, fries, limit your alcohol, love your veggie and fish they keep you lean year around.. there is much more to it but ill prob have to start a forum on dieting lol
 
I posted one in the diet and bodybuilding forum. And the gym I'm at doesn't consist of bodybuilders except the owners and the main trainer which is a female

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DIET DIET DIET! I'm gonna beat the dead horse but its as simple as that. You don't have the worst base I've seen but it is going to take some hard work and good diet. And if it were easy everyone would be shredded. It takes dedication to stay on a strict diet and work out routine. If you do want some outside help as far as supps. Look into natural supplements for weight loss and muscle building.
 
I got the diet thing...but building mass while cutting is impossible. What do I eat to build mass but keep the fat low but not too low.

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I got the diet thing...but building mass while cutting is impossible. What do I eat to build mass but keep the fat low but not too low.

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Sounds like you are losing the battle before you even begin with that attitude. Obviously you aren't doing something correctly, let me list some simple ideas for you, and at your weight and bf it is easy to recomp, not easy per say.. But far from impossible.

You want to cut fat and maintain muscle ? The best ways I have been able to do this is 1 ( high intensity interval training) by this I mean hop on a bike , warm up for 5-10 minutes get the blood flowing , go lift your select weight movements for the day ( chest, back, legs, whatever it may be) hit it hard and heavy pushing each rep till the last, get the weights over with within a half hour , Hop back on that bike and hit the intervals .. Warm up again for a minute ( your body is already warm so you don't need much time, crank the resistance up and peddle your fuckin ass off for 30 seconds ( or longer if you aren't gassed ) then lower intensity to a nice easy pace for 1-2 minutes ( I suggest starting at 2 as you will find this difficult to keep up for 15 minutes) after those 2 minutes crank that fucker up again and pedal until you are wiped, breathless almost can't go on, then lower resistance again for 2 minutes, rinse and repeat for 15 minutes. This routine gives you a 10 min bike warm up , 30 min weights, 15 min intervals for a total of 55 minutes, I suggest stretching for 5 - 10 minutes after while sippin on your ISO protein or whatever . Next day , your legs may be a little fucked up so after doing your weights, do 15 minutes medium pace cardio , day 3 hit those intervals again.

I won't touch on your diet as you say it's " in check" but I doubt it is. Keep the protein high , carbs low- moderate ( maybe up a little on interval days) and fats at somewhere around .45 grams per lb bw. You don't have to be exact with any of these numbers, keep the food clean and wholesome, no garbage sauces or sugars , and watch yourself transform. The intervals are key for me in staying lean , they keep your metabolism jacked for hours post workout, so as you sleep and even into the next day your metabolism is burning at elevated rate , so your burning additional fat ! Now this is only one method but it's my go to, as you get more advanced , after intervals maybe hit up a secondary muscle group, I.e , work back, do intervals, finish a nasty bicep circuit, extending your workout time to maybe 1 hour 15 minutes... But for now go train, if your reading this at your computer right now, turn it off, do a giant set of push-ups and sit-ups , and go to bed, the new you starts today .
 
Thanks for actually putting some worthwhile info. No my diet isn't in check as of now. But I am aware of how to cut. I started out last year around June weighing around 210 lbs. and by January I was down to 169 lbs. I am curious as to what I should be eating to continue to make good mass gains. I don't want to be fat but I don't want to be lower than about 10% bodyfat either.

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Sorry if I am coming off as having an attitude. I just want details on dieting for good mass gains while keeping the bodyfat low ish. No one seems to be giving me a detailed answer. I want a list of foods that I should be eating. Everyone is saying diet but not what to be doing on this diet in detail.

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Sorry if I am coming off as having an attitude. I just want details on dieting for good mass gains while keeping the bodyfat low ish. No one seems to be giving me a detailed answer. I want a list of foods that I should be eating. Everyone is saying diet but not what to be doing on this diet in detail.

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Your not going to accidentally become lower than 10% bf you are over thinking the whole process witch in a way hurts you. You have lost weight before you obviously know what to eat and you know it's a slow process. Do the hit training like suggested and he listen what your general nutrition should consist of. You got to research a lil more. A general idea would be chicken breasts baked, grilled, boiled what ever u want with some fresh broccoli with some carrots stick to fresh vegetables and try and eat them with every meal. Boil some eggs, so they are hard boiled eggs peel them back throw away the yolk and eat the whites. Buy some rice cakes eat those for snacks. Make a salad with tuna mixed in or even add your chicken.. The information is out there bro no one will really want to spoon feed you the answers you know? Look up logs on this website there is some people out there that list everything the eat. FYI a good app is myfitnesspal it will track all your macros and tell you how much you need to eat and when you go over its on android and apple.
 
Thanks. I have that app. I will go back to a cleaner diet for sure. Which consisted of mainly oatmeal with a scoop of protein. Grilled chicken breast with brown rice and broccoli. I had steak here and there. I pretty much cut out all things white...flour, sugar, white rice, and dairy. But I felt like during this I wasnt doing anything but losing. I didn't feel like I was making any mass gains. Which is why I just started eating whatever as long as it contained a decent amount of protein and cut out cardio.

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Cutting you typically lose some size I mean just can you weigh 190 doesn't mean you will stay 190 but drop bf% it doesn't work like that naturally body building is a marathon not a sprint, people that think other wise end up hurt, discouraged, or fucking themselves up in the long run just be patient and stick with it, btw opening a bunch of threads on this forum you will just get a bunch of shit from other members... Just trying to help you out
 
Sorry if I am coming off as having an attitude. I just want details on dieting for good mass gains while keeping the bodyfat low ish. No one seems to be giving me a detailed answer. I want a list of foods that I should be eating. Everyone is saying diet but not what to be doing on this diet in detail.

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