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Creepy-ass cracker to get his gun back!
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It kills my boner.
It kills my craving for skittles
We can go find a couple crack heads and promise them drugs to act it out.
A couple of creepy ass crack heads?
It was not brought up to switch the races. The post I responded just said "black shooter".
Again it is your reading skills that are lacking.
I also said (indirectly) that I didn't think Zimmerman was guilty of murder II.
But you talk about the law like it's cut and dried. The law is what a jury decides it is. And white juries are more likely to acquit a white defendant and convict a black one.
Black juries are more likely to acquit a black defendant and convict a white one. Studies have shown it. It is the world we live. Race matters.
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Idobehigh
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Good thing Zimmerman wasn't white huh
billfred
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If Martin was white, chances are high Zimmerman doesn't chase him down. If Martin is white and Zimmerman black, WTF is going to believe he was on neighborhood watch and not out do some harm?
Yeah, outcome would be different one way or the other. You don't see that and you are in fucking denial.
I am not saying Zimmerman is guilty.
Yeah, outcome would be different one way or the other. You don't see that and you are in fucking denial.
I am not saying Zimmerman is guilty.
are you saying you'd convict a black man, had you been on the jury, if the facts unfolded exactly as they did in this case and the shooter was black?
I thought they were both Asian?
I'm not sayin....I'm just sayin. It's looking like a duck to me.
The law is good, how its applied by individual prosecutors to each case is bad.
Now the crack laws of the 80's is actually bad because of the disproportionate amount of minority users. And the fact that theres no substantial difference between crack (mostly minority use) and cocaine (more widespread use in all races)
A child? When was trevon a child? 5 years before his death?
I believe he was 17 hardly a child.
Wow lets at least keep this honest.
I believe he was 17 hardly a child.
Wow lets at least keep this honest.
dont let facts get in the way of the agenda.
I believe that most people are like me who have never used the N or the C word and treat everyone equally not because I had to try but because it's natural to be open minded about everyone regardless of appearance. I refuse to be manipulated by our retarded media who twisted this case into one of divide and hatred by continuing to call him white so much so that our African American president, (voted for by mostly Latino and whites) one who holds the highest office in our land, had to speak and say that because racism and hatred is so high in America that it could have been him? What? So it could have been him because he was an African American or a male teen at one point?
My neighborhood had a string of break-ins one that I managed to stop because I walked in on them. In the weeks following the break-ins I became hyper-vigilant and I even followed some suspicious people. I realize that following them may have been dumb but it's a natural reaction to defend and protect your home when you feel your living area is being targeted. It's not normal to not have that reaction. We started a neighborhood watch and part of that was to watch out for suspicious activity and call the police when we saw it. Had I called the police and 911 told me not to follow, I wouldn't have but I don't know what a man would do in that high alert state, even I followed people. The criteria of suspicious could be picked apart by people in the aftermath (it wasn't based on race, but on the type of vehicles in the neighborhood and age of the people, loitering etc). Teens of all races break into homes. White teens, black teens, latino teens...teenagers commit crimes like break-ins and vandalism in neighborhoods. A lot of teenagers behave in aggressive ways that are stupid, and a lot of men are lucky to be alive today having experienced that stage in life in just a fight or fight response. I believe if Martin was white, latino, any other teen that didn't look like a proper nerd would have been followed by Zimmerman because was on high alert. I know because i experienced it myself. This teen, running off of ego threw the first punch, like a lot of teens do, and was killed and now all of us are divided as hell. Zimmerman may or may not be a racist, but we aren't all racists. We keep allowing ourselves to be divided by an either bored or evil media with ulterior motives.
Boycotting the entire state of Florida? What about the African American businesses in Florida? What about the blacks in Florida? The stand your ground law is dangerous? Really, defending yourself is dangerous now? That's great, when all the stand your ground laws are revoked guess who can't defend themselves? African Americans. It's insane. That law wasn't even used in this case, why are we talking about it? It wasn't. Don't buy into this. Zimmerman did not use a stand your ground defense.
Under Florida's 'Stand Your Ground' Law, Black and White Defendants Fare Equally Well - Hit & Run : Reason.com
My neighborhood had a string of break-ins one that I managed to stop because I walked in on them. In the weeks following the break-ins I became hyper-vigilant and I even followed some suspicious people. I realize that following them may have been dumb but it's a natural reaction to defend and protect your home when you feel your living area is being targeted. It's not normal to not have that reaction. We started a neighborhood watch and part of that was to watch out for suspicious activity and call the police when we saw it. Had I called the police and 911 told me not to follow, I wouldn't have but I don't know what a man would do in that high alert state, even I followed people. The criteria of suspicious could be picked apart by people in the aftermath (it wasn't based on race, but on the type of vehicles in the neighborhood and age of the people, loitering etc). Teens of all races break into homes. White teens, black teens, latino teens...teenagers commit crimes like break-ins and vandalism in neighborhoods. A lot of teenagers behave in aggressive ways that are stupid, and a lot of men are lucky to be alive today having experienced that stage in life in just a fight or fight response. I believe if Martin was white, latino, any other teen that didn't look like a proper nerd would have been followed by Zimmerman because was on high alert. I know because i experienced it myself. This teen, running off of ego threw the first punch, like a lot of teens do, and was killed and now all of us are divided as hell. Zimmerman may or may not be a racist, but we aren't all racists. We keep allowing ourselves to be divided by an either bored or evil media with ulterior motives.
Boycotting the entire state of Florida? What about the African American businesses in Florida? What about the blacks in Florida? The stand your ground law is dangerous? Really, defending yourself is dangerous now? That's great, when all the stand your ground laws are revoked guess who can't defend themselves? African Americans. It's insane. That law wasn't even used in this case, why are we talking about it? It wasn't. Don't buy into this. Zimmerman did not use a stand your ground defense.
Under Florida's 'Stand Your Ground' Law, Black and White Defendants Fare Equally Well - Hit & Run : Reason.com
Fla. Stat. § 776.032 (2013)
§ 776.032. Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force
(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the defendant.
(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.
(3) The court shall award reasonable attorney’s fees, court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses incurred by the defendant in defense of any civil action brought by a plaintiff if the court finds that the defendant is immune from prosecution as provided in subsection (1).
That means you wouldn't even be prosecuted. It's a pre-trial hearing. If you use it and are successful there is no criminal trial.
Fact - Laws, whatever state they are applied in, all too often are not applied equally when it comes to race. Research historical sentencing for cocaine (where defendants are more likely white) versus crack (where defendants are more likely black).
ADK Madman
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They need to take guns away from people that plan to use them for killing.
That's what guns are for...they're not toys...no one should carry/own a gun unless your prepared to use it
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Idobehigh
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That would be an opinion fact is something that has been proven to happen EVERY TIME it's okay tho maybe we all could read this?.....
View attachment 110313
I posted this on the last page:
"Now the crack laws of the 80's is actually bad because of the disproportionate amount of minority users. And the fact that theres no substantial difference between crack (mostly minority use) and cocaine (more widespread use in all races)"
Looks like we agree on that one?
Idobehigh
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No? What about this View attachment 110323
wow, is that true about lean? Anyone tried it?
too bad that's not what people want to hear
Wow that is very interesting. Thanks for the post.
Here about it.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/slain-marine-beaten-after-explicit-text-message/nN88Q/
1. The victim was good friends with and invited to the party by one of the perps. This makes it not a hate crime.
2. They were all using drugs and being fuckups. I don't feel sorry for anyone involved. I appreciate his service....now get a job and be a responsible citizen.
3. He texted something that was enough to inflame four drugged up negros...bad idea with bad odds.
Hamersmash
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Let me first begin by saying that i am in no way racist, please understand this. But over the past few days i have been keeping note of statistics coming out from North American news agencies that i doubt have reported this in North America, no doubt from fear of reprisal/boycott and what not, however here are some of these interesting facts:
In New York from January to June 2008, 83 percent of all gun assailants were black, according to witnesses and victims, though blacks were only 24 percent of the population. Blacks and Hispanics together accounted for 98 percent of all gun assailants. Forty-nine of every 50 muggings and murders in the Big Apple were the work of black or Hispanic criminals
　
An analysis of 'single offender victimization figures' from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white — with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study
　
Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse
And if the FBI stats for 2007 represent an average year since the Tawana Brawley rape-hoax of 1987, over one-third of a million white women have been sexually assaulted by black males since 1987 — with no visible protest from the civil rights leadership.
Not only is America but the whole of Europe afraid to stand up to this aggression and intimidation through fear of race hate, we merely keep our heads down while minoritys (Soon to no longer be, as Blacks in North America are the majority of children being born) do as they please blaming all their self-produced problems on the white man (The Enemy).
Can we please see Trayvon Martin's criminal history already??
In New York from January to June 2008, 83 percent of all gun assailants were black, according to witnesses and victims, though blacks were only 24 percent of the population. Blacks and Hispanics together accounted for 98 percent of all gun assailants. Forty-nine of every 50 muggings and murders in the Big Apple were the work of black or Hispanic criminals
　
An analysis of 'single offender victimization figures' from the FBI for 2007 finds blacks committed 433,934 crimes against whites, eight times the 55,685 whites committed against blacks. Interracial rape is almost exclusively black on white — with 14,000 assaults on white women by African Americans in 2007. Not one case of a white sexual assault on a black female was found in the FBI study
　
Though blacks are outnumbered 5-to-1 in the population by whites, they commit eight times as many crimes against whites as the reverse. By those 2007 numbers, a black male was 40 times as likely to assault a white person as the reverse
And if the FBI stats for 2007 represent an average year since the Tawana Brawley rape-hoax of 1987, over one-third of a million white women have been sexually assaulted by black males since 1987 — with no visible protest from the civil rights leadership.
Not only is America but the whole of Europe afraid to stand up to this aggression and intimidation through fear of race hate, we merely keep our heads down while minoritys (Soon to no longer be, as Blacks in North America are the majority of children being born) do as they please blaming all their self-produced problems on the white man (The Enemy).
Can we please see Trayvon Martin's criminal history already??
Aye, we do agree although the substantial difference is that crack is a diluted form of cocaine.
If you have to add the first part YOU ARE. To your point likely not because he was juvenile but why don't you want see Zimmermans, Mr. I'm not racist.
WoodyO
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Fuck off
mrplunkey
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Interesting position.
So if Zimmerman had been previously convicted of a racially-motivated crime, I assume you would have been equally against that being admissible.
Correct?
Uh, are you aware of Zimmermans legal issues that were not admitted in court?
It's a conspiracy. Lol
This is clearly that cracker Bush's fault
No, the law justifies the shooting, the record is just a talking point.
Fuckin wanna be thug acting like a fool and trying to beat someone's head in the concrete for asking them what they are doing should be shot 10/10 times
Fuckin wanna be thug acting like a fool and trying to beat someone's head in the concrete for asking them what they are doing should be shot 10/10 times
His priors don't justify the shooting, but the kids smashing a guys head into concrete sure does.
Remember, the scuffle was nearly 3 minutes long. The guy didn't just pull his piece and shoot the kid, it was only after minutes of getting his head smashed in that he pulled a gun a shot.
Have you ever been thumped in the skull? I have, and trust me, you don't think clearly even if you're highly trained. Fear settles in, and if he continues to get crashed and bloodied, you know he resorted to his last option to make it stop, which is shooting someone.
The more and more I think about this, the more I feel the not guilty verdict was proper.
Also, the more I see you talk about this, the more I realize you make this an emotional issue and leave straight facts of the situation out of it.
gjohnson5
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I want to address the "smash your head in the concrete" part of that post. Theres no video to confirm that. The John Good testimony was reviewed and found to be not physicqlly possible.
So if I were to smash the back of your head into concrete, youd be be bleeding profusely AND youd be unconscious.
That part of Georges story makes no sense. Infact all of it makes no sense.
He should have testified AND on a polygraph like redsamuai suggested.
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So if I were to smash the back of your head into concrete, youd be be bleeding profusely AND youd be unconscious.
That part of Georges story makes no sense. Infact all of it makes no sense.
He should have testified AND on a polygraph like redsamuai suggested.
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I'm not sure about the guy in the video, seems pretty far right but given that I only put in 20 seconds to search about his credentials or credibility I can't say for sure.
His history was not admitted and nobody is talking about it, but everybody is talking about Trayvon.
white people all over the country are conspiring
When I say smash, I don't literally mean his skill split open like if you there a watermelon on the ground.
Did you see the photos of him from that night? He had a dozen large lumps on his head, a couple of which were bleeding on the back of his head. That's consistent with somebody hitting your head into the ground.
Let's say that's not true, then he he was struck another way that produced those wounds, which would have been some pretty brutal punches and/or kicks to someone's head. Still justified in shooting someone if they are doing that to you.
Meanwhile Martin has no bodily marks of any kind minus the bullet hole, which suggests that Zimmerman didn't start it.
TableFun
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I know I am!
That suggests absolutely nothing other than "when" the altercation moved to the ground, Trayvon eventually wound up on top. You have NO IDEA whether Zimmerman grabbed Trayvon to keep him from getting away; reached into his pockets trying to find ID; whether he tackled him.
Woman claims Zimmerman sexually abused her for ten years.
Witness alleges she was abused by suspect in Trayvon Martin killing - CNN.com
Zimmerman had a membership at a Florida martial arts gym, which bills itself as "the most complete fight gym in the world."...yet he's seen as just a fat guy...he may have had some moves.
mrplunkey
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Great point. So it was fair on both sides?
In court, fair on both sides which benefited Zimmerman IMO.
gotmilk
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Some moves?
Like getting smacked by a 17-year old? My Grandmother could have blocked a punch and could have atleast poked Trayvon in his eye...maybe even tugged on his ear. Bitch could cripple you with her ear pulling skills.
Membership to a martial arts gym means squat.
Lestat had a membership here, posted on the anabolics threads, and was still built like Urkel.
If he did hang out often in a martial arts gym, why didn't the prosecution bring in his instructors and show Jorge had mad-fighting skills like Chuck Norris?
I don't agree with the end results. A point-blank shot in the chest seems pretty excessive for self defense. Maybe shoot the guy in the arm, the thigh, the shoulder.
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WoodyO
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Good to see so many people commenting actually followed the trial.
The Defense brought in the trainer who worked with Zimmerman, and he said Zimmerman may have successfully lost weight in the training but he wasn't the slightest bit athletic, and basically said he couldn't punch or fight worth shit.
The Defense brought in the trainer who worked with Zimmerman, and he said Zimmerman may have successfully lost weight in the training but he wasn't the slightest bit athletic, and basically said he couldn't punch or fight worth shit.
gotmilk
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Who the crap actually wasted their life following the trial?
Fat Mexican gets jumped by wanna-be little Wayne, someone brought Skittles to a gun fight, thug life backfires, Al Sharpton cries, White House whines, people realize self defense.
Next?
Anyone want to talk about the 13-month old who was shot point-blank?
I blame the baby. Shouldn't have put itself in the path of the bullet.
No, we dont want to talk about that.
Facts are bad for business bruh
gjohnson5
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Most of the questions pertain to information which was not allowed in the case such as the texts and photo's on Trayvon's phone.
So this link is a fail
The link deals more with the underreporting of the deceased 17 year olds background as it was, not how it was whitewashed to look previously.
This whole thread is littered with "oh but Zimmerman was really like this" posts
They are all cold blooded killers, every one of them!
That's true, it wasn't allowed in court, yet the jury still found Zimmerman not guilty.
However, it lets people realize that Trayvon wasn't a sweet demeanored, innocent little boy like people want you to believe. He was living the thug life, suspended for fighting, looking to buy a gun illegally, getting in brawls outside of school as well, saying he wanted to make people bleed, and got the same fate thousands before him for for acting like tough shit.
I would have beat that fucking punk bitch's ass if he showed up in my neighborhood also. So fuck him!
racist!!!!!1111111
You mean Martin wasn't 11 years old like in the media pictures?
Zimmerman is so good at spraying black kids he could be a fuckin Kardashian
Another rogue jury fucking up!
hahahaha that's a fucking good one!
not sure that's any different than any other extremist group but still scary to hear people talk that way.
gjohnson5
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I wouldnt have sided with Scott if I were on the jury for reasons I posted in the other thread. From what I read in the link, he was aware that cars were being broken into but did not call the police. Scott waited until the kids got to his car to confront them. Scott had plenty of time to call the cops and stay out of it. If you go looking for trouble and confront people, you should not be allowed to claim self defense.
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And if you go looking for trouble and someone blows you away for being a fucking thief, you shouldn't be able to claim you were done wrong
if I catch someone breaking into anything on my property, you can bet I'm going to confront them. I have every right to confront someone on my property, as did that guy. you make absolutely no sense. please just stop talking already
Yeah I agree this is a waste of time. The thug was shot to death. Boo fucking hoo. Saved the country a shitload of money in not having to prosecute him for the multiple offenses and years if not lifetime behind bars for that is where he was headed.
jnevin
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I thought it was supposed to be a concentrated form. Either way, they're two sides of the same coin.
gjohnson5
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LOL @ the tough guy talk on the internet forum
You can confront them all you wish , but don't expect everyone to side you
mrplunkey
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I thought crack was a shorter-acting, shorter-lasting more intense version of cocaine. While it is technically a "dilution" of cocaine with other, lower-cost ingredients, I believe the chemical modification also makes the drug more efficiently consumed when smoked.
It is, thats the whole point of having crack. The hits are more intense and shorter, but the cost per unit is less for the user. Thats why poor people usually choose it over coke.
I'm gonna become a crack addict and start jerking off while riding on public transportation of various kinds.
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