Just so you know this is a pic of where I want to be someday. Thats needsize as he says "fat" to me PERFECT. And a friend of the short one is where I want to be before I get to a fat needsize. Trust me.... i know it wont be soon. But I love that build. Id like to maintain the higher BF like the 2nd but maybe some day go for the gold and hit a body somewhat like the 1st.