clomid to help pct was a rumor started by bodybuilders

[Vicious cycle]

lol, theres soo many better choices

So what are the better choices? I'm not flaming you, I really would like to hear your opinion.

 

[JuicePimp]

In my mind the biggest downside to clomid is the risk of doing permanent damage to your vision. This alone will keep me off it in the future. C'mon lets be honest, how many have had the 'ghosting' type vision sides with it?

 

[needsize]

If I have a choice between losing much of my gains as my HPTA is shut down, or experiencing some sides from clomid and keeping most of them, then there really is no decision. I've never seen a side effect bad enough from clomid to even make me consider not doing PCT

 

[Nelson Montana]

Although it's always nice to meet a fellow Clomid hater, I hope you're joking when you say that it's a "conspiracy."

There is some solid hypothetical evidence that Clomid should work, and the guys who deduced it were brilliant in doing so, (since it is not meant to be taken by men). It just doesn't pan out very well in the real wrold. I'd say it works for 25% of the people who use it. It has disasterous effects n another 25% and it's nuetral in the remaining 50%. But most people will recover anyway, and they assume the Clomid helped. They also feel better about taking it because they believe the myth that it's the "safe" thing to do.

The comment about the supposed side of Clomid really being the result of coming off a cycle is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.

 

[bowling ball nutz]

I doubt its the clomid that makes people feel shitty....you are gonna feel like that for a while after a cycle anyway, with or without Clomid.

Bull shit, not if you do it right!

 

[bowling ball nutz]

So what are the better choices? I'm not flaming you, I really would like to hear your opinion.

If you know the mechanism of action then, like you should before taking any drug, you would know that there are 2 other drugs that do this and only this(block estrogen feed back)

 

[bowling ball nutz]

If I have a choice between losing much of my gains as my HPTA is shut down, or experiencing some sides from clomid and keeping most of them, then there really is no decision. I've never seen a side effect bad enough from clomid to even make me consider not doing PCT

so when your ballls are all shrivled up you rely on clomid post cycle? just curious

 

[needsize]

so when your ballls are all shrivled up you rely on clomid post cycle? just curious

every cycle but the last one I relied soley on clomid, and other than getting a little emotional, didnt have any sides that I gave a rats ass about, and I did keep all my gains and recover HPTA quickly. This last one, I used a combo or hcg, clomid and nolva and that worked even better

 

[Vicious cycle]

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[Nelson Montana]

every cycle but the last one I relied soley on clomid, and other than getting a little emotional, didnt have any sides that I gave a rats ass about, and I did keep all my gains and recover HPTA quickly. This last one, I used a combo or hcg, clomid and nolva and that worked even better

Not for nothing needsize, but haven't you been on VAR since you stopped your cycle? Why give the credit for your sustained gains to the Clomid?



What's better than Clomid? Anything, or nothing. For starters, proviron, A-dex and herbals.