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Cheat meals: No point!

SubjectiveIllusion said:
Cheating is so short lived, and its consequences far outweigh its benefits!

Easily put- 'taste is transitory.'

Just my 2c.

Cheating and refeeding are two different things. A controlled refeed and/or carb-up can be VERY beneficial for your diet in the long-run - see my other posts for similar explanations on leptin and thyroid levels.

Mr.X
 
thanks for the motivator man, seriously.
Your welcome. I hope it comes to good use! :)

Cheating and refeeding are two different things. A controlled refeed and/or carb-up can be VERY beneficial for your diet in the long-run - see my other posts for similar explanations on leptin and thyroid levels.
Notice how I only mentioned 'cheating', and not 'refeeding.' If what you eat has a positive longterm outcome I'm an advocate, otherwise no. I have been through the binge/purge cycle (vomiting, over-excercise, laxatives, fasting etc..) and cheating (without damage control- ouch!!!) and know that the physical and mental effects are just not worth it. I just cannot see the point in getting 10-30 minutes of pleasure eating when you'll either end up in worse shape or be making up for it the rest of the week.

When I first made that saying up ('taste is transitory' or 'taste is transient'), I repeated it over and over in my tape recorder for 1 hour. I listened to it for 3 nights in a row when I'd go to sleep. It repeated 4500 x's.

I have been dieting on 1200-1600 calories for a long time now and not cheated since. I don't even think about the saying anymore or even about cheating. I've come to the realization that eating is merely to support life. I calculate, grab my food, eat, and thats all, never to come back for more.

I find everything just seems to come naturally when you want it bad enough.
 
SubjectiveIllusion said:

Your welcome. I hope it comes to good use! :)


Notice how I only mentioned 'cheating', and not 'refeeding.' If what you eat has a positive longterm outcome I'm an advocate, otherwise no. I have been through the binge/purge cycle (vomiting, over-excercise, laxatives, fasting etc..) and cheating (without damage control- ouch!!!) and know that the physical and mental effects are just not worth it. I just cannot see the point in getting 10-30 minutes of pleasure eating when you'll either end up in worse shape or be making up for it the rest of the week.

When I first made that saying up ('taste is transitory' or 'taste is transient'), I repeated it over and over in my tape recorder for 1 hour. I listened to it for 3 nights in a row when I'd go to sleep. It repeated 4500 x's.

I have been dieting on 1200-1600 calories for a long time now and not cheated since. I don't even think about the saying anymore or even about cheating. I've come to the realization that eating is merely to support life. I calculate, grab my food, eat, and thats all, never to come back for more.

I find everything just seems to come naturally when you want it bad enough.

There is a difference between cheating and refeeds (controlled) and I find many people misuse the wording, yet I understand where you're coming from. The momentary pleasure is usually outweighed later by the guilt of cheating - a lot of psychological issues come into play here.

Mr.X
 
Also studies say that completely avoiding a desired food can alleviate its temptation, and I can concur with that.

..and Many people cannot eat a cheat food and then just stop, or all they can think of is their next cheat day, and that often results in cheating earlier and earlier. You get what I'm saying.

By not having a cheat day you are slowly accustoming your body accepting that- 'this does not happen', and eventually you will suppress the desire to cheat.

At least thats what I've found for myself, but theres more to it then just that...
 
SubjectiveIllusion said:
Also studies say that completely avoiding a desired food can alleviate its temptation, and I can concur with that.

..and Many people cannot eat a cheat food and then just stop, or all they can think of is their next cheat day, and that often results in cheating earlier and earlier. You get what I'm saying.

By not having a cheat day you are slowly accustoming your body accepting that- 'this does not happen', and eventually you will suppress the desire to cheat.

At least thats what I've found for myself, but theres more to it then just that...

The simplest way not to cheat is to have timed and controlled refeeds (carb-ups) every week, usually 5/1 intervals. The main reason people do cheat is because of a lack of a set path to how a proper diet is set up. If one is to set up their diet correctly w/ refeeds saturated around hunger periods (potential cheat times), it would cut out any possiblily of binge eating.

Mr.X
 
The main reason people do cheat is because of a lack of a set path to how a proper diet is set up.
Good point, but think most people eat out of pure hunger or tend to turn to food when they are stressed, so becoming stress-free is often quite useful.

I find manipulating food in such a way as to try to reduce hunger (low G.I. foods, meal spacing, proportions, etc) does not work nearly as well as just changing your mentality.

I can eat 1600, 1200, 750, 250 or 0 calories per day for long periods of time because I changed the way I 'think.' The type of food need not matter. I've eaten 1 tsp of PB in the morning and 250 calories worth of carrots during the day, for a month on pure will power (I don't advise it- my hands are still orange, LOL!!!)

Its mostly all in the mind.
 
SubjectiveIllusion said:

Good point, but think most people eat out of pure hunger or tend to turn to food when they are stressed, so becoming stress-free is often quite useful.
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Being stress free is always an issue, but overall it's the timing and type of diet that the person is on that becomes relevant when these instances come together.

Mr.X
 
cheating once a while keeps me sane and keeps me from straying from my diet
it also allows me to socialise and enjoy myself when i go out with friends and family

2 or 3 meals a week are great as long as i'm training hard i don't see a harm
 
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