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chelly88

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i'm totally lost... i'm wondering what i should and shouldnt be eating. every time i try to lost weight... go to the gym 5-6 days a wk, eat healthy and clean with some good fats, whole grains, lots of fruit and veggies (more veggies) and low fat dairy i dont budge. i'm wondering if maybe i'm missing something... maybe not eating enough protein or fat or carbs or what. i eat normal sized meals...balanced, i'm very good about junk food. i read all the fitness mags and i follow a lot of what they say to lose weight but i'm not losing. my BF doesnt drop too much... i've been fairly stable at about 30% for 3-4 yrs but i add some muscle which tips the scale up. i dont want that... i'm 5'9", 158Ilbs approx. 30% BF... any suggestions?
 
Do you drink much alcohol?

Ive been dieting recently and was having trouble losing any fat too. However, I cut out getting shit faced on a saturday night for the past 2 weeks and now ive dropped 3%
 
What are your carb sources? Daily diet?

Check out some of the journals on the womens boards. Is your diet similar?

I was told that in order to lower bodyfat one needs to cut out the refined carbs, dairy, and try carb cycling.
 
I can not believe all those answers and nobody asked how many calories she is taking in. That should have been the first question to ask. Carb/protien/fat dont mean shit until you know exactly how many calories you eat in one day. Write down every single thing you put in your mouth for a week. The answer will be there and only there. Also in a recent study they found that food labels can be out by as much as 20%.
 
heavy_duty said:
I can not believe all those answers and nobody asked how many calories she is taking in. That should have been the first question to ask. Carb/protien/fat dont mean shit until you know exactly how many calories you eat in one day. Write down every single thing you put in your mouth for a week. The answer will be there and only there. Also in a recent study they found that food labels can be out by as much as 20%.

I agree with Heavy Duty. I am a certified trainer. When I have my clients fill out their form for what they eat in one week it really is amazing. Many people don't understand for instance a 20oz pop is actually 2 1/2 servings. How many people actually drink just one serving. Just remember they only way to lose bodyfat is you need to burn more calories than you take in. Don't give up you can reach your goals you just need to fine tune a few things and you will be back on track. Good luck you can do it!

I have a female client that came to me with a bf testing of 25% . 6 months later she is down to 12% it can be done if you want it bad enough
 
heavy_duty said:
I can not believe all those answers and nobody asked how many calories she is taking in. That should have been the first question to ask.

Actually I asked her what her diet looks like. Plus she also posted a similar thread on the women's forum. And we are still waiting for her to tell us what she eats.

She says she eats a 110% clean diet, but can not lose any fat. And of course this isn't possible unless she is eating too much, or not enough.
 
I have a question related to this. Everybody says to lose BF, its all about cals in vs cals out. My question is when doing cardio, to burn fat, it says you need to keep your heart rate at a certain level. But when I do that, I dont burn as many calories as I do when I run. So should I be running and let my heart rate go, or should I just walk and keep my heart rate down?
 
ok... i used to eat carbs later in the day after dinner... but it was only popcorn, nothing else but have since cut that out... what time should i stop eating carbs?
i've stopped drinking altogether now since i'm quitting smoking... cant drink without a smoke. and i have quit drinking before while dieting and exercising but still didnt make any difference that i noticed.
my main carb sources are whole wheat bread (which i dont even eat that much of since i hate sandwiches...only eat it in the morning)( brown rice, vegetables... no refined carbs, no sugar.
calories at present are at about 1000-1300 calories a day but were at 1500-1700 before.
before when i exercised i didnt even bother watching my heart rate because i was so focused on burning calories... especially after working out for a while and realized that i wasnt dropping BF.

ok...this is what i ate yesterday

breakfast 9:30am- 2 slices whole wheat bread with 2 tbsp peanut butter
2 cups water

snack- missed this ( i know, not good...) was in class

lunch12:30pm- 3 fat free weiners (only 118 cals, lots of protein)
2 pickles (i know, sodium...but i dont eat them too much... and my sodium intake has gone way down since i quit smoking:D)
1 cup cauliflaur (half was going to be part of my snack)

snack- 2:30-apple

dinner:6:30pm- one chicken breast, large salad with 1 tsp dressing, 1/4 cup beans

this was yesterday and lately has been close to this...if not worse. i'm just starting university so i'm still trying to get into the routine. i'm looking into on-campus meal plans but they dont look good... i'm just stumped as to what i can bring (besides always eating protein bars) that i can eat without a huge hassle and bring that won't take up a lot of space. i can't carrry a backpack (back problems)...
thx guys
 
chelly88 said:
ok... i used to eat carbs later in the day after dinner... but it was only popcorn, nothing else but have since cut that out... what time should i stop eating carbs?
i've stopped drinking altogether now since i'm quitting smoking... cant drink without a smoke. and i have quit drinking before while dieting and exercising but still didnt make any difference that i noticed.
my main carb sources are whole wheat bread (which i dont even eat that much of since i hate sandwiches...only eat it in the morning)( brown rice, vegetables... no refined carbs, no sugar.
calories at present are at about 1000-1300 calories a day but were at 1500-1700 before.
before when i exercised i didnt even bother watching my heart rate because i was so focused on burning calories... especially after working out for a while and realized that i wasnt dropping BF.

ok...this is what i ate yesterday

breakfast 9:30am- 2 slices whole wheat bread with 2 tbsp peanut butter
2 cups water

snack- missed this ( i know, not good...) was in class

lunch12:30pm- 3 fat free weiners (only 118 cals, lots of protein)
2 pickles (i know, sodium...but i dont eat them too much... and my sodium intake has gone way down since i quit smoking:D)
1 cup cauliflaur (half was going to be part of my snack)

snack- 2:30-apple

dinner:6:30pm- one chicken breast, large salad with 1 tsp dressing, 1/4 cup beans

this was yesterday and lately has been close to this...if not worse. i'm just starting university so i'm still trying to get into the routine. i'm looking into on-campus meal plans but they dont look good... i'm just stumped as to what i can bring (besides always eating protein bars) that i can eat without a huge hassle and bring that won't take up a lot of space. i can't carrry a backpack (back problems)...
thx guys


Where to start... 1st forget all about taking clen, or any another "fatburner" because your diet is a mess, I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just meaning honest.


Ok 1st you are starving yourself. Your calories should be at 10-12 times your bodyweight. So you said you weight 158lbs you calories should be between 1580 and 1896. If you do not eat enough, your body goes into starvation mode and will not let the fat go.

2nd, use this ratio 40% protein, 30% carbs, and 30% fats. Use fitday.com to track this.

Weiners are not a good source of protein, also you should have protein at every meal. If you need soe help with a 100% clean diet, go to the ladies forum and check out the stickies, there are diets from Shadow and Daisy there.

There are good sources of protein: egg whites, tuna, chicken, turkey, not that processed crap either.

Good carbs of carbs: Oatmeal, brown rice, sweet potato, all fruits and veggies

Good fat sources: olive oil, all natural peanut butter avacado, coconut oil, almonds flaxseed oil.

Also if I were you I would drop the bread.
 
Anybody around here ever ask the person giving the advice just what their qualifications are? I have been reading a lot and have yet to see anybody state their degree, where their clinic is or how many decades they have been treating people.

Hopefully it is more than "Hey I'm lean so I can help you get lean" or "I'm a big mofo so just follow what I do and you can be a big mofo too"
 
You don't need qualifications to offer someone advice. Personal experience counts for a lot more than a piece of paper which says your smart
 
777-9311 said:
Anybody around here ever ask the person giving the advice just what their qualifications are? I have been reading a lot and have yet to see anybody state their degree, where their clinic is or how many decades they have been treating people.

Hopefully it is more than "Hey I'm lean so I can help you get lean" or "I'm a big mofo so just follow what I do and you can be a big mofo too"


Dan Duchaine wasnt a cert traner or nutritionist......
 
777-9311 said:
OK Forget the degree just tell me your qualifications.

Qualifications don't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Results do, however, as well as reputation. Sit back, read posts, you'll see who is respected around here.
 
OK results you say. results would be your qualification then. ie. "I have trained 20 people and here are the before and after pics". So nobody should be upset if they are asked about how many people they trained and pics to prove it right?
 
777-9311 said:
OK results you say. results would be your qualification then. ie. "I have trained 20 people and here are the before and after pics". So nobody should be upset if they are asked about how many people they trained and pics to prove it right?

Why should they have to "prove" anything to you? The person ASKING for the advice should only be asking if they are willing to accept the giver's background as sufficient to impart knowledge.

If you want certification/licensure/PROOF then perhaps you should fork over the cash to someone you KNOW holds the certification rather than asking on an anonymous message board?

And if I offered my suggestions to someone after THEY came to a message board asking for advice and the person had the balls to request PROOF that my knowledge was sufficient, I'd kindly tell them to screw off. :)
 
That's almost saying you would have to be a retard to come here and ask/accept advice from somebody you dont know from Adam. Lets face it the
"advice" could easily be coming from a teen-age computer nerd with a personal training text book.


aandd said:
Why should they have to "prove" anything to you? The person ASKING for the advice should only be asking if they are willing to accept the giver's background as sufficient to impart knowledge.

If you want certification/licensure/PROOF then perhaps you should fork over the cash to someone you KNOW holds the certification rather than asking on an anonymous message board?

And if I offered my suggestions to someone after THEY came to a message board asking for advice and the person had the balls to request PROOF that my knowledge was sufficient, I'd kindly tell them to screw off. :)
 
777-9311 said:
That's almost saying you would have to be a retard to come here and ask/accept advice from somebody you dont know from Adam. Lets face it the
"advice" could easily be coming from a teen-age computer nerd with a personal training text book.

If you are soliciting advice on an anonymous message board you should be prepared to

1) get both good AND bad advice
2) visit the message board enough to know who has a solid reputation and
3) either BEGIN WITH or FOLLOW UP WITH your own research.

If someone is too damn lazy to google/ask questions/find solid research on what they are asking about, then in my opinion they get what they deserve.

My point is this - It is NOT, NOT my responsibility to provide you with proof that I am certified or licensed to give you advice. YOU are asking the question, YOU are looking for advice. It is therefore YOUR responsibility to make sure the advice is solid by looking for supporting research.

If you want that kind of proof, find a sports doctor and nutritionist in your area and get off your pocketbook to pay for the assurance. You'll find that most people who are eager to PROVE their abilities also like to CHARGE for access to their products/knowledge/etc.

Personally, I am just happy as a clam to absorb as much knowledge as I can from these boards, as they are filled with people whom I believe have real world experience. Then I augment that knowledge by doing my own research. Takes a bit of time, but saves my financial resources for more important things... like chicken and protein powder.
 
aandd said:
If you are soliciting advice on an anonymous message board you should be prepared to

1) get both good AND bad advice
2) visit the message board enough to know who has a solid reputation and
3) either BEGIN WITH or FOLLOW UP WITH your own research.

If someone is too damn lazy to google/ask questions/find solid research on what they are asking about, then in my opinion they get what they deserve.

My point is this - It is NOT, NOT my responsibility to provide you with proof that I am certified or licensed to give you advice. YOU are asking the question, YOU are looking for advice. It is therefore YOUR responsibility to make sure the advice is solid by looking for supporting research.

If you want that kind of proof, find a sports doctor and nutritionist in your area and get off your pocketbook to pay for the assurance. You'll find that most people who are eager to PROVE their abilities also like to CHARGE for access to their products/knowledge/etc.

Personally, I am just happy as a clam to absorb as much knowledge as I can from these boards, as they are filled with people whom I believe have real world experience. Then I augment that knowledge by doing my own research. Takes a bit of time, but saves my financial resources for more important things... like chicken and protein powder.

I must recharge, but great post worth bumping.
 
I would guess most people on here have no professional training in this. A few do, yes, but not most. If you are coming to a free message board looking for professional advice, you are barking up the wrong tree. People who do this for a living don't give it all away free. This is a place for advice. If you are that concerned about qualifications, then take everything you read on here with a grain of salt.


777-9311 said:
Anybody around here ever ask the person giving the advice just what their qualifications are? I have been reading a lot and have yet to see anybody state their degree, where their clinic is or how many decades they have been treating people.

Hopefully it is more than "Hey I'm lean so I can help you get lean" or "I'm a big mofo so just follow what I do and you can be a big mofo too"
 
Miss24k said:
Where to start... 1st forget all about taking clen, or any another "fatburner" because your diet is a mess, I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just meaning honest.


Ok 1st you are starving yourself. Your calories should be at 10-12 times your bodyweight. So you said you weight 158lbs you calories should be between 1580 and 1896. If you do not eat enough, your body goes into starvation mode and will not let the fat go.

2nd, use this ratio 40% protein, 30% carbs, and 30% fats. Use fitday.com to track this.

Weiners are not a good source of protein, also you should have protein at every meal. If you need soe help with a 100% clean diet, go to the ladies forum and check out the stickies, there are diets from Shadow and Daisy there.

There are good sources of protein: egg whites, tuna, chicken, turkey, not that processed crap either.

Good carbs of carbs: Oatmeal, brown rice, sweet potato, all fruits and veggies

Good fat sources: olive oil, all natural peanut butter avacado, coconut oil, almonds flaxseed oil.

Also if I were you I would drop the bread.


Thank you very much for the information in bold. I've read so many different things lately that I was getting a little confused. :worried:
 
Que_66 said:
Thank you very much for the information in bold. I've read so many different things lately that I was getting a little confused. :worried:


You're welcome :)

Don't be afraid to ask questions if you're confused with something, most of us are here to help if we can ;)
 
If they are posting on here for advice they shouldnt be looking for PHD's and Greatly proven nutritionists they would be asking people what has worked in their experiences. If you care so much about qualifications and that crap pay for it this is free.

Its not like these diets are going to kill you or make you extremely sick. And if you cant recognize someones made up diet that can put you in danger then you should start researching.
 
I have to wonder if perhaps she doesnt have some sort of thyroid problem as well....she is in starvation mode Im sure, but if everything she says is true, no way she should be at 30% still....
 
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