Calling all newbies: Ovetraining is highly ANABOLIC

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Re: Re: Re: Calling all newbies: Ovetraining is highly ANABOLIC

Because if you live in Black and White newbie world of "Overtraining is bad, this program is the best, etc", you are a newbie. Most people are newbies. If a person thinks he is dvanced, he probably is just a newbie being dilusional.

I'm a newbie, cool, thanks for clarifying that, all this time I as thinking something else.

Imnotdutch, good luck, I've been asking to see a pic to back these "theories" up as soon as they started showing up here, but he has yet to even reply to my requests.

 

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Calling all newbies: Ovetraining is highly ANABOLIC

I'm a newbie, cool, thanks for clarifying that, all this time I as thinking something else.

Imnotdutch, good luck, I've been asking to see a pic to back these "theories" up as soon as they started showing up here, but he has yet to even reply to my requests.

Yup. I wouldn't hold your breath.

I used to have a high tolerance for Alex. Took sort of an "every village needs an idiot" approach. But now he's directing his schpeil at newbies. Encouraging young/new lifters to do this kind of volume could easily lead to injury.

I just hope people are reading these responses as well.

 

[Advaik]

You all want numbers? I've been doing overtraining techniques for 3 weeks now, and am going to continue until August, at which time I will start an old school regime.

My numbers in a 3 week time (From the time I did my first overtraining day that I previously posted):
Biceps: Grown .3
Chest: Grown .9
Shoulders: Grown 1.4
Waist: Grown .4 (ok, it's mostly fat, that's because I've been eating like a horse to compensate for my overtraining )
Legs: ?? (I havn't really done any squatting, overtraining takes alot out of me so I haven't been able to get a good leg day in and usually just do leg extentions/curls on leg day).

My chest/shoulders have blown up, I am getting a very wide look now. My arms arn't doing as good as I'd hope, but I am sure it just needs more time.

I really really wish I had kept my pictures that I took about 8 months ago before I started training. I was very small and was flabby. I deleted them off my HD because they were very embarresing and I didnt want to ever see them again. Now I am ALOT bigger (I kept the numbers, and will post them in August when I am done with a complete year) and pretty ripped.

 

[ZZuluZ]

You stupid illiterate asswhipe, I said supercompensation OF GLYCOGEN DOES NOT NECESSARILY OCCUR as reflected by texts by Vladimir Zatziorski.

Show me a source that shows otherwise.

And learn to read.

That article you posted IS shit because it doesn't specify ANYTHING. "Overtraining is good". How does this help anyone?

Don't tell ME I'm the one who prescribes the same routines for everyone. You were the one posting about the ultimate best routines while I advocated periodization and variety.

So suck it bitch.

-Zulu

 

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You stupid illiterate asswhipe, I said supercompensation OF GLYCOGEN DOES NOT NECESSARILY OCCUR as reflected by texts by Vladimir Zatziorski.

Show me a source that shows otherwise.

And learn to read.

That article you posted IS shit because it doesn't specify ANYTHING. "Overtraining is good". How does this help anyone?

Don't tell ME I'm the one who prescribes the same routines for everyone. You were the one posting about the ultimate best routines while I advocated periodization and variety.

So suck it bitch.

-Zulu

Don't sit on the fence, how do you really feel.....

 

[gymtime]

You all want numbers? I've been doing overtraining techniques for 3 weeks now, and am going to continue until August, at which time I will start an old school regime.

My numbers in a 3 week time (From the time I did my first overtraining day that I previously posted):
Biceps: Grown .3
Chest: Grown .9
Shoulders: Grown 1.4
Waist: Grown .4 (ok, it's mostly fat, that's because I've been eating like a horse to compensate for my overtraining )
Legs: ?? (I havn't really done any squatting, overtraining takes alot out of me so I haven't been able to get a good leg day in and usually just do leg extentions/curls on leg day).....

So if I understand you correctly, you're attributing gains in your chest and shoulders to overtraining, but your waist gain to overeating? Doesn't sound right to me.

 

[Advaik]

I shouldn't have said it's fat, actually my BF has not changed at all even though I am taking in about 1000-1500 more calories a day. The thing is my stomach has expanded and I am constantly full, you know the feeling after you just had a big meal? That's what it is like constantly to me, but my abs are still very visable, and there is little actual fat gain if any.

 

[gmanlax7]

Don't encourage this motherfucker, somewhere some rookie lifter is hurting himself because of all of alex's attention getting bullshit

 

[lemur]

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this is officially the most absurd fucking thing I have ever read in my life. it wouldn't be called "overtraining" if it was anabolic. jesus christ.

I am also interested in seeing some pics of your obviously marvelous physique.

This is terrible advice to be given to newbies.

 

[trial0r]

Ugh dude. That article is crap.

Do you even know if Supercompensation of glycogen occurs? Most experts now think it doesn't.

You don't even understand what it says. Sure 'overtraining' can be beneficial it's called conditioned overtraining and people like Tudor Bompa are prononents of it. The article doesn't even touch on how to go about it; it requires careful intensity/volume/frequency cycling most often used by olympic athletes.

Go ahead and do 25 forced reps. FRY THAT NERVOUS SYSTEM. Oooooo yeah....cherish the overtraining.

Anyway, I'm no expert, but even I can tell this article isn't going to help anyone.

-Zulu

im with zulu on this, and the fact that this is adressed to newbies is even worse. newbies are the most susceptible to overtraining as it is, the last thing they need is someone telling them its the best thing for them.