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[Undertow503]

Here's Royce Gracie owning a Kung Fu Master, I'm sure some of you seen this clip before. I, myself train in TaeKwonDo(WTF) with Hapkido.

http://www.compfused.com/filedl1/25qstcq/Royce_Gracie_vs_Kung_Fu_Expert.wmv

It didn't seem to me the Kung Fu expert try to do much. Yawn, a couple kicks?

 

[Djimbe]

Why is it on the internet that everyone that has taken a couple of classes in Chinese Martial Arts is suddenly "A KOOOHHNG FFFEEEEWWWW EXPERT !!!" ? Or even a couple of years ? NOBODY in the CMA community knew who Delucia was until he fought Gracie , and he wasnt ready for him like LOTS of other ppl werent . So what ? He beats BJJ guys too , does that mean that BJJ sucks ?

Seriously dude , The Gracies HAVE NO JOBS and theyve been training in MA since like BIRTH and they have like NINTEY siblings and cousins and junk to Spar with TWENTY HOURS A DAY ! Of COURSE they can beat up most ppl ! Hell , I dont care if your style is FLUNG POO DOE you would SO kick MAJOR ASS at it if all you did was train and Spar and eat and Sleep and train some more at it . Im sure your "Buttpicker Attack" (Or whatever" would be awesome and unstoppable .

The Gracies arent really good Examples/representatives of BJJ more as they are what you can achieve if you have no Job and train in MA all day long . Ive known guys from systems that I frankly think SUCK ASS and Id SO not want to fight that guy that trains like its his Job/calling at it than the guy that trains 4 hours/week at the deadliest Ninja-Fu available . but the fact is that most ppl DONT train 10+hours/day even one day in there entire lives - even the ones that do MAs for DECADES in some cases - and even LESS of those that CAN have the kind of luxury to be SURROUNDED by sparring partners with that same luxury and at that same level , you know ?

 

[Djimbe]

I see you like Kung Fu

I like SOME CMAs , others I frankly think are outmoded , outdated, or just plain SUCK from a technology standpoint .

THAT BEING SAID :

I think that at the CORE Martial Arts are about applying our THINKING SCIENTIFIC MINDS to fighting , and I find it difficult to believe that people that arent able to diferentiate between TOTALLY different styles JUST because they HAPPEN to come from the same country are totally incapable of formulating a scientific (and possibly even Coherent) thought on their own .

SOME "Kung Fu" is full of High Stances and Kicking , some "Kung Fu" is about Low Stances and Throwing - Some "Kung Fu" favours an Offensive mentality, some Defensive , some "Kung Fu" is about develpoing body hardness to a level that would make the most hardcore masochists puke , and some "Kung Fu" is about softness to a level that when a CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL Muay thai practitioner kicks you he describes it as "Like Kicking Cotton Candy" .

Do I like "Kung Fu" ?

I like GOOD "Kung Fu"

But I also like GOOD MA from ANYWHERE , not just China .

 

[Kane Fan]

wich is part of the Illusion/Delusion of BJJ and the current trends in (M)MA !

I mean , Judo had it right all along , one perfect throw and the fight is over !

The PROBLEM is when we confuse the Practice environment (the MAT) for the real world . Mats were Introduced in Judo/JuJiutsu for the same reason that Cups , Mouthpieces , Headgear , shinguards , and Boxing Gloves were - so that we could PRACTICE what would be Painful WITHOUT said gear . If in MMA Matches the floor was Hard and the "Cage" was Brick or Stone the Import of the "Ground Game" would be far less Emphasised , though still not Nonexistant by any means . But now the Tactics and style developed specificaly and ONLY for the Mat Environments are being touted as "REAL" fighting , wich it , in fact , is not . MOST of the MA "Heroes" touted today as the "Worlds Greatest Fighters" would likely quickly be eaten alive in pretty much any Maximum Security Prison by pretty much anyone with any size on them that had managed to siurvive a few years in said environment if the Fight itself were to the death . Its pretty hard to take the Fight to the Ground when youre basically fighting in a Phone Booth .

But you would NOT have BJJ schools being run by purple (or even BLUE) belts in small-town USA charging +$200/mo for their services .

yah willingness to hurt people and actual experience doing it is better then polished skill
but as I am not willing to go out and beat the shit out of people to get my training I'll go with plished skill and hope for the best lol

I like Judo tho at least the idea of it

 

[Kane Fan]

How so ?

The Avg BJJ (only) student cant take a swing at you worth a damn . Seriously .

And how , EXACTLY is it more "Well Rounded" than "Kung Fu" ? Wich SYSTEM of KF ? I mean , seeing as how I can rattle off well over a DOZEN systems of "Kung Fu" that not only have Striking but Grappling , Physical Fitness , and Weapons Elements , not to mention that they manage to do so without Beltrankings or "Traditionalistic" trappings of amy kind .




The "W" key is RIGHT next to the "E" key . Its a common typoe .

the o is no where near the e key so how the hell did you do that...

 

[Djimbe]

I just think its funny to Mispell Typoe !

 

[Kane Fan]

if I tried to misspell a word I'd typo it and it would wind up correct...