brazilian jiu jitsu vs

[Kane Fan]

Ive done MT, FMA, JKD and currently am a blue belt in BJJ. In the beginning I was like nothing can beat BJJ, but here is the catcher:

vs karate and kung fu:

JKD/KF might give the BJJ player some reluctence to go in for the leg takedowns, but other take downs are only a clinch away. Karate chops and stuff like that have defenses in BJJ. Kicks in KF are meant for distractive purposes to get close in and maybe do some traping. Again be careful. this closeness is what the BJJer likes. One minute your going in for a pak-sau and the next your on your back getting arm-barred.

vs TKD: As with other stand up arts you got to watch the hands. Unfortantly for TKD'ers their legs are their main weapons. With no knee development in tkd they are a easy target to grab the leg or go for hip throws. Get in close and throw is their way to defeat. Once on the ground it might as well be a beagle vs a lion.

vs MT:
This martial arts is dangerous for the BJJ player. For the BJJ player (BJJP) he must get the MT Player (MTP) on the ground to be effective. The clinch will be no good because MTP's can do serious damage from the clinch. The best advice is to maybe grab a leg during a kick (yes it can be done) and go for the take down. Single and double legs can be dangerious because of knees.
Hands are out question as well. Get clocked by a MT and watch the BJJer go down. Sure 95% of the fights end on the ground. Why? Cause you were knocked out or you got a sucessful takedown?

now this is what I like to see
someone who dosn't think their style is a Godsend and makes them unstoppable
your knowlege of BJJ's limitations probubly makes you more dangerous to a Mixed fighter then a better grappler who thinks he's unstoppable
anyway the Clinch isn't the best place for a takedown against everyone
like you said MT guys are bad to Clinch with
I asked you this somewhere dunno if you answered
do you train at Allience up in Charlotte your avatar looks familar but the pic is so little

 

[Kane Fan]

also keep in mind that the rules of MMA competitions protect BJJ practitioners. if some bjj guy tries to pull me into guard, I'm punching his nuts. no fucking around.

even with MMA rules you can get pounded pretty effectivly from Guard

 

[Kane Fan]

If the choices had no BJJ it would be fairly easy.
You say that all you need to do is sprawl and it won't get to the ground?
I've never not gotten someone down.
Doesn't always happen on the first attempt but I do end up getting them down.
My size helps though as I'm 250 pounds....
With a wrestling background before Gracie Jiu Jitsu.

yah size helps a lot
I'm 265 with very minimal take down training and I can get people down pretty easily (unless they are signifigantly better trained then me) and hell even then if I hook them I can generally knock them down anyway
or just run headlong into them
I'm hoping to have a very solid Takedown defence and basically Chuck Lidell people if I compete

 

[Ianhockey91]

VALE TUDO, its such a nice mix between muay thai and bjj.

 

[Saintinistic]

too many factors here.

though the more varied a person is, the more effective their stratergies and potential for win.

health and fitness is another.

also, if it was between 2 strangers in a bar, what makes anyone think they will fight fair to the codes. the gym isnt the street. people dont stop when you tap out, so having a dirty trick up your sleeve is essential IMO. even if its spitting a mouthful of beer at them as you fire into them. anything that gives an advantage.

 

[Kane Fan]

I like the idea of tossing an object (or spitting beer tho I find beer distasteful) into thier face
if they flinch that's your chance to land any punch you want to any target
or a kick etc

 

[Djimbe]

Id say someone from Gao System Baguazhang that trained HARD for San Da/Lei Tai Tournaments and Matches .

I just think they are the most realistic rulesets . Striking , Clinch , Throws , Stomps , Joitnwork , takedown Defense - you cant slouch ANYWHERE - but no unlimited time limit to Roll about and Inch for Position (so you have to have 1-5 GO TO locks and dump the crap that really wouldnt work in a Fight)

 

[Kane Fan]

isn't that pretty much MMA rules
tho sometimes if it's getting tedious you get stood up in MMA

 

[Rex]

I was at my step-sis' graduation party last night, and one of her friends is a belt holder for his weight class [150 something] in JJ. Some how the conversation got to who can take who, and one of his friends kept saying how'd the belt holder can take anyone blah blah blah. Another kid asked me if I thought I could take the JJ kid. Of course I'm not going to say no. The first kid tries talking it up. I finally got sick of it and said "Look. I'm sure he's a great martial artist, he must be to hold a belt. I don't want to fight him, but if I did I won't be afraid to smash a bottle over his head, rip his balls out of his scrotum, and feel confident in my ability to come out on top. I fight dirty, which is why I don't like to fight." Conversation ended on that topic.

I want to study JJ/BJJ when I am permanently living in my area again, and can respect the art, but damn it a belt doesn't mean shit at a party equipped with weapons of opportunity.

The whole incident irritated me.

 

[Kane Fan]

depends on who gave the belt and what they trained for