Biotest's 4-AD-EC, thoughts

[latinus_spicticus]

Just got 3 bottles of this in the mail today. I am going to start it in two or three weeks and run it with some 1AD at 400mg/day. The 4ad ec will be used at 400mg, then 200mg daily. For those of you who don't know, 4-ad-ec is the 4ad component of Mag-10. I don't like transdermals, so I've never really experienced 4ad's supposed CNS stimulation and libido stimulatory effects. I am looking forward to it. If the stuff doesnt work, I guess I will get a refund like I did with tribex. Is anyone else planning on trying the 4-ad-ec out?

 

[pa1ad]

Just got 3 bottles of this in the mail today. I am going to start it in two or three weeks and run it with some 1AD at 400mg/day. The 4ad ec will be used at 400mg, then 200mg daily. For those of you who don't know, 4-ad-ec is the 4ad component of Mag-10. I don't like transdermals, so I've never really experienced 4ad's supposed CNS stimulation and libido stimulatory effects. I am looking forward to it. If the stuff doesnt work, I guess I will get a refund like I did with tribex. Is anyone else planning on trying the 4-ad-ec out?

Please do not take this product with 1-AD. What will happen is you will get good gains from the 1-AD and then assume that the 4-AD EC is good too. YOu may just as well take androstenedione with anadrol and then give the adione a thumbs up.

 

[latinus_spicticus]

Pat, why are you such a dick? I've tried 1AD on three seperate occasions and I got great results every time. You know what, Biotest and everyone I talked to said that it was a scam. If I listened to them, I would never have taken it. Everyone said Androsol, Androspray, Mag10, even regular ol' 4AD were scams. But most of the feedback from these products are positive. The reason I am going to try 4-AD=EC is because the transdermals don't seem to work for me and the cyclodextrin 4AD used intranasally was too irritating to use for more than 3 days. Since 1AD kills your libido after a week or so, I would like to have the CNS stimulation and libido improvement of 4AD for my cycle. Shit, I am pretty positive it will work better since many unbiased reports say that Mag 10 works. I know one guy at my gym that likes mag10 better than 1-ad. And most people complain of libido loss on 1-ad, no one complains about it with Mag10. So I am going to give 4-ad-ec a shot. If it doesn't work, I will get a refund. If it does, it will hopefully solve 1AD's decadick effect.

 

[latinus_spicticus]

BTW, didn't you used to sell androstenedione? Are you going to chastise yourself about being a shill that sold worthless supps like you do re: biotest? Just to let you know, I will be buying my 1AD from Kilosports from now on. So what I stack with it won't be any business of yours. Oh yeah, and despite the fact that you've slammed these products--I will be trying Molecular Nutrition's Boldione and SAN T-100 in the near future based on positive UNbiased reports from users.

 

[wojo]

why even ask this question if you plan on using it anyway Pat has commmented enough about this type of delivery system.go to the t-mag forum9it seems like it is better suited for your needs) and ask this question if your search(you did do one right) and questions didn't turn up satisfactory answers.

 

[latinus_spicticus]

why even ask this question if you plan on using it anyway Pat has commmented enough about this type of delivery system.go to the t-mag forum9it seems like it is better suited for your needs) and ask this question if your search(you did do one right) and questions didn't turn up satisfactory answers.

You are extremely uninformed. The only question I asked was if anyone else was interested in 4-ad-ec. I wasn't looking for a specific answer. Using the search engine would be POINTLESS, since Biotest only announced the product ONE WEEK AGO. And I know that pat has ''commented'' on this delivery system. He slammed it. He slams everything that is not Ergopharm-- BFD. I know that Mag-10 and Boldione work because I personally know people that made gains from them. What were you thinking when you made that post?

 

[Monolith1]

Hey Latinus,

Wouldn't it be easier just to do mag10?

 

[pa1ad]

Pat, why are you such a dick? I've tried 1AD on three seperate occasions and I got great results every time. You know what, Biotest and everyone I talked to said that it was a scam. If I listened to them, I would never have taken it. Everyone said Androsol, Androspray, Mag10, even regular ol' 4AD were scams. But most of the feedback from these products are positive. The reason I am going to try 4-AD=EC is because the transdermals don't seem to work for me and the cyclodextrin 4AD used intranasally was too irritating to use for more than 3 days. Since 1AD kills your libido after a week or so, I would like to have the CNS stimulation and libido improvement of 4AD for my cycle. Shit, I am pretty positive it will work better since many unbiased reports say that Mag 10 works. I know one guy at my gym that likes mag10 better than 1-ad. And most people complain of libido loss on 1-ad, no one complains about it with Mag10. So I am going to give 4-ad-ec a shot. If it doesn't work, I will get a refund. If it does, it will hopefully solve 1AD's decadick effect.

So I am a dick? Why? Because I tried to point out the fact that it is imposssible to determine the true efficacy of one prohormone if you are taking it along with another known effective prohormone? I am sorry I even come to these boards sometimes.

 

[latinus_spicticus]

"YOu may just as well take androstenedione with anadrol and then give the adione a thumbs up.".

Did you say this? I thought so. Your response to my question was extremely condescending and insulting. Or do you think this is a normal way to respond to a perfectly normal question? By the way, I didn't address you specifically, nor did I ask a question about stacking it with 1AD--my original question asked if anyone else was interested in the 4AD-EC compound. So you didn't even respond to my original question--you rudely stated that I was going to tell everyone 4AD was good because of the 1AD. How insecure are you, really?




"Please do not take this product with 1-AD. What will happen is you will get good gains from the 1-AD and then assume that the 4-AD EC is good too"

So somehow you just knew that I would attribute the gains from 1AD to the 4AD-EC? Not only are you a dick, you are an egomaniac and are on the same level as Brock Strasser in regards to egomania and ripping on other companies' products.

 

[tony1]

Why would you take 1ad and biotests mag 10 together if both are some form or precursor to 1 testosterone? Wouldn't that be like taking 4ad in pill form stacked with 4ad transdermal and coming to the conclusion that the 4ad pill form really works great. Wouldn't the point of seeing if something really works be isolating it by itself first. If you have used 1ad before and it works how will know if any positive gains were made from Mag 10. I don't think Pat stepped out of line on this one.