becoming a fat pig

[BornAgainPagan]

i'm on my first cycle. 250mg sust every 3 days and 150mg deca every 3 days. i did not kick off my cycle with an oral like d-bol because i take another medication for migraines that is pretty hard on the liver and i didn't want to add the extra stress on it. so because of this it will take 4- 5 weeks for the gear to "kick in" correct? well, before i started the cycle i ate around 3000 to 3500 cals a day spread over 6-7 meals. i weighed roughly 225 at about 12% body fat. these were not really clean cals, but not to bad either. since i started my cycle, 20 days ago, i've gained 15lbs, most of it seems to be on my gut. i upped my calories to 4000-4500 a day at the start of my cycle. so my question is should i have waited for a few weeks to up the cals since i did not jump start with an oral?? i'm getting fat and i don't like it. i look like i'm fucking pregnant! i am obviously eating far more calories than i need. i am also taking .5 mg eod of arimidex, so i don't think it's bloat, unless it's from the deca, but isn't it to soon since the deca wouldn't even be active yet?? so, should i just cut the cals back or do cardio or what?? i only do about 10 min of cardio a day for a warm up, but i work out like a mad man 1 hour a day 5-6 days a week. i know this is a long post, but any suggestions would be helpful.

 

[Juice Authority]

i'm on my first cycle. 250mg sust every 3 days and 150mg deca every 3 days. i did not kick off my cycle with an oral like d-bol because i take another medication for migraines that is pretty hard on the liver and i didn't want to add the extra stress on it. so because of this it will take 4- 5 weeks for the gear to "kick in" correct? well, before i started the cycle i ate around 3000 to 3500 cals a day spread over 6-7 meals. i weighed roughly 225 at about 12% body fat. these were not really clean cals, but not to bad either. since i started my cycle, 20 days ago, i've gained 15lbs, most of it seems to be on my gut. i upped my calories to 4000-4500 a day at the start of my cycle. so my question is should i have waited for a few weeks to up the cals since i did not jump start with an oral?? i'm getting fat and i don't like it. i look like i'm fucking pregnant! i am obviously eating far more calories than i need. i am also taking .5 mg eod of arimidex, so i don't think it's bloat, unless it's from the deca, but isn't it to soon since the deca wouldn't even be active yet?? so, should i just cut the cals back or do cardio or what?? i only do about 10 min of cardio a day for a warm up, but i work out like a mad man 1 hour a day 5-6 days a week. i know this is a long post, but any suggestions would be helpful.

Hopefully you're not under the assumption that AAS is a dietary supplement. Eating clean is a major part of the gains made on a cycle.

 

[BornAgainPagan]

Re: Re: becoming a fat pig

Hopefully you're not under the assumption that AAS is a dietary supplement. Eating clean is a major part of the gains made on a cycle.

no, of course not. i said i eat fairly clean. i think it would be nearly impossible to eat that many cals with nothing but tuna and rice cakes. i eat some junk food, but not much. were i gave the impression that i may think they are a dietary supp. is beyond me. i am not stupid, but maybe i sounded so. thanks for the reply.

 

[The Terminator]

You made the incorrect assumption that gear is "inactive" for the first 4 weeks...In reality your androgen levels rise almost immediately after yor FIRST injection...
Therefore your hormonal balnace is thrown off kilter right away...

Your answer sounds to me though like you are simply eating too many calories, and storing those excessive ones as bodyfat...

Cut back the caloric intake...

 

[BornAgainPagan]

yeah i was under the assumption that with sust most of the test does not become active for 3-4 weeks because of the esthers and the same with deca. thanks i'll cut down the cals i think

 

[Juice Authority]

yeah i was under the assumption that with sust most of the test does not become active for 3-4 weeks because of the esthers and the same with deca. thanks i'll cut down the cals i think

Sust is a 4-blend testosterone with fast acting esters in it. Most people put on a good chuck of weight in their first week of a sust cycle.

 

[Juice Authority]

Re: Re: Re: becoming a fat pig

no, of course not. i said i eat fairly clean. i think it would be nearly impossible to eat that many cals with nothing but tuna and rice cakes. i eat some junk food, but not much. were i gave the impression that i may think they are a dietary supp. is beyond me. i am not stupid, but maybe i sounded so. thanks for the reply.

I wasn't suggesting you were stupid bro but some people seem to think that AAS reduces bodyfat when it doesn't. If you're eating a high amount of carbs and not burning it off with cardio or high repetition sets then guess what, it stores as fat.

 

[The Terminator]

Sust is a 4-blend testosterone with fast acting esters in it. Most people put on a good chuck of weight in their first week of a sust cycle.

Even long acting test esters like enanthate will cause a significant rise and androgen levels within 24 hours after ONE injection...

Anyone who doubts that can go get test levels checked, take a single ml. of sust then go back 24 hours later and get them checked again (yes your doctor will probably think you are a nut...but when the results are seen...you will know...)

 

[Juice Authority]

Even long acting test esters like enanthate will cause a significant rise and androgen levels within 24 hours after ONE injection...

Anyone who doubts that can go get test levels checked, take a single ml. of sust then go back 24 hours later and get them checked again (yes your doctor will probably think you are a nut...but when the results are seen...you will know...)

Very true. The baseline release of Enan is strongest within the first few days.

 

[monkey arms]

Cut your calories. I'm roughly your size and anytime I go over 4000 say good bye to the abs. You may want to drop back to 2500/3000 for 2 weeks and see what happens. In my opinion Noone can eat 4500 cals/day and not gain some amount of fat. Unless you are in boot camp.