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This is so great! Please, by all means motivate the heck outta me when I'm being a brat! My cheats are planned the same as you, next saturday is that wedding, then the holiday dinns with the fam.badgergrl said:O.K. I can't take it anymore. I need to cut. I've added a descent amount of muscle over the last four months, so it's time to see what's under this winter coat. I know it's soon, but I feel like if I don't do it know it won't ever happen.
My training has been consistent, but diet has not.
Starting tomorrow, the plan is changing. Here it is:
Training:
Sun: Chest + anterior delt + 20 min. pwo cardio
Mon: Back + Posterior delt + 20 min. pwo cardio
Tues: Off
Wed: Legs (quad concentration) + Abs
Thurs: Arms + Medial delt+ calves+ 20 min. pwo cardio
Fri: Off
Sat: Legs (ham concentration) + abs
Thanks to Bunny for letting me jack some of your training ideas and motivation. I still want to add some size to my legs and shoulders. My arms grow so easily, and I feel like they were getting a little out of proportion, so I'm not concentrating on them so much. All my workouts will start with a ten minute warmup on the treadmill. Everything will be much faster-paced....higher reps, lower weight. I can't fit in morning cardio now, so this will have to work. I may add more later.
Diet:
Monday I'll begin a five-day carb deplete to get me started. Then I'll start carb cycling: High, Low, Low
High days: 150 g Low days: 50g
On the high days I'll shoot for 1800 cals, low days 1500.
Sups:
I just ordered levorex, so I'll give that a try. (I can't handle stimulants)
I'll also be using Glucorell before meals, Ms. power pack multis, Purecee until I run out, and probably some extra calcium.
I'm already planning to cheat next Saturday(birthday), thanksgiving, and christmas. But that's it.
I'll post pics later w/ stats.
Any suggestions are appreciated!
*Bunny* said:This is so great! Please, by all means motivate the heck outta me when I'm being a brat! My cheats are planned the same as you, next saturday is that wedding, then the holiday dinns with the fam.
Sass made a good point to me, to run it through full 2 weeks of the carb rotation with the split to assess energy and make sure I have it lol
I made it two days of not eating anything 'unhealthy' ... you know what that means lol few more days and I'll be back into the swing of things.
You can DO THIS!!!
HA! You now know what B also stands for with mebadgergrl said:Please do the same for me. I can get real bratty!
What does your carb rotation look like?
*Bunny* said:HA! You now know what B also stands for with me
It's going to be some variation of either:
2 high days
2 mod days
3 low days
OR
2 high days
1 mod day
4 low days
^^ Not in that order, somehow spread out within my split.
I was talking things over with Miss Carb Cycle (Sass), and basically I don't wanna be skimping on overall cals on low days, so those would be replaced with fats to help out there. I have NO CLUE what my cal intake will be, but a usual high carb day has easily been 150-200g. I may only focus on the actual about of complex carbs. Take today for instance, my carb total is 168g, where 87g of those are from complex sources. I prefer to carb UP or place a high carb day prior to a specific heavy day, so I am going to try & fit that in accordingly. My split is for strength gains, maintenance of LMB, and I'm pretty sure fat will be lost, I have 5 days of lifting where I want intensity to be high... there will be a few days where carbs may not be where they need to be, so I will rely of supps like purecee & cardio breeze to help out with energy. Going to give it two weeks to assess energy then go from there. Any advice/tips Im all ears. Carb cycling already makes my head hurt lol. I remember I ate Chicken and broc for 5 meals for an entire week and I sure did cut the heck up, but wow was I mentally NOT myself.
Sorry for the novel ...
I am doing a spike slope of sorts right now. I eat 100g complex carbs on my weight training days and 35g complex carbs on my non-weight training days. This is not counting fruit (eat 2 servings daily) and veggies though, so my overall carbs for the day are always moderate ranging in the 125-165g zone. It is working well for me in terms of progress with seeing more striations and cut on my body. Surprisingly, my strength has increased as well.badgergrl said:I don't really understand why people carb cycle with a gradual slope (ie: high, mod, low, no) Instead of more of a spike slope (ie: high, no). It seems to me that the abrupt switch would be more effective. I dunno.
Anybody understand that aspect of it?
Roonytunes said:I am doing a spike slope of sorts right now. I eat 100g complex carbs on my weight training days and 35g complex carbs on my non-weight training days. This is not counting fruit (eat 2 servings daily) and veggies though, so my overall carbs for the day are always moderate ranging in the 125-165g zone. It is working well for me in terms of progress with seeing more striations and cut on my body. Surprisingly, my strength has increased as well.
I really think carb cycling is very much dependant on finding what works for you. I've done a high-med-low cycle before and didn't do well on it. I was retaining water too much and mentally losing it more than I liked.
badgergrl said:O.K. I can't take it anymore. I need to cut. I've added a descent amount of muscle over the last four months, so it's time to see what's under this winter coat. I know it's soon, but I feel like if I don't do it know it won't ever happen.
My training has been consistent, but diet has not.
Starting tomorrow, the plan is changing. Here it is:
Training:
Sun: Chest + anterior delt + 20 min. pwo cardio
Mon: Back + Posterior delt + 20 min. pwo cardio
Tues: Off
Wed: Legs (quad concentration) + Abs
Thurs: Arms + Medial delt+ calves+ 20 min. pwo cardio
Fri: Off
Sat: Legs (ham concentration) + abs
Thanks to Bunny for letting me jack some of your training ideas and motivation. I still want to add some size to my legs and shoulders. My arms grow so easily, and I feel like they were getting a little out of proportion, so I'm not concentrating on them so much. All my workouts will start with a ten minute warmup on the treadmill. Everything will be much faster-paced....higher reps, lower weight. I can't fit in morning cardio now, so this will have to work. I may add more later.
Diet:
Monday I'll begin a five-day carb deplete to get me started. Then I'll start carb cycling: High, Low, Low
High days: 150 g Low days: 50g
On the high days I'll shoot for 1800 cals, low days 1500.
Sups:
I just ordered levorex, so I'll give that a try. (I can't handle stimulants)
I'll also be using Glucorell before meals, Ms. power pack multis, Purecee until I run out, and probably some extra calcium.
I'm already planning to cheat next Saturday(birthday), thanksgiving, and christmas. But that's it.
I'll post pics later w/ stats.
Any suggestions are appreciated!
That's definitely interesting. I assume eventually I'll be told to drop the fruit...so I'm just enjoying it while I can.badgergrl said:Hey Roony! It is very much an individual thing. I can't do fruit when cutting. My body really reacts to the simple sugars.